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Seen. it is just a communications network, it is not a payment system. so long as there is still demands for the goods that russia are saying, gas, oil, titanium etc, there will be a means that likely an incentive to try and work around these payment systems. it will be difficult, it will be challenging, it will cost russian money, time, security, certainty. but, i m sure it won t be the silver bullet some people imagine. we re going to talk more about this or the course of the show, so people can actually get to understand it. we appreciate your analysis on those bigger sanctions, adam. good to see you as always, thank you for being with us. adam and smith, a former senior adviser at the treasury office of asset control in the former director of lateral affair in president obama s national security council. coming, up urban warfare specialist tom spencer tweeted advice for how the civilian resistance could be most effective in ukraine. that advice has gone viral around the world. on ....