The pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. President loftus, i would like to call roll. Please do. Commissioner president loftus, here. Commissioner advice turman, commissioner marshall, commissioner dejesus, commissioner hwang, commissioner mazzucco. You also have police chief suhr. Im going to propose we move item no. 3 early i did in the discussion on our agenda and put it under, chief, i know you are going to give a presentation on the item. Next item. Public comment. General Public Comment. The public is now welcome to address the Commission Regarding items that do not appear on tonights agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. Speakers shall address their remarks, to the commission, whole and not individual commissioners or department or occ pes nell. Under Police Commission rules of order, du
City of San Francisco Police Commission please stand by. February 10, 2016 , can you please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. President loftus, i would like to call roll. Please do. Commissioner president loftus, here. Commissioner advice turman, commissioner marshall, commissioner dejesus, commissioner hwang, commissioner mazzucco. You also have police chief suhr. Im going to propose we move item no. 3 early i did in the discussion on our agenda and put it under, chief, i know you are going to give a presentation on the item. Next item. Public comment. General Public Comment. The public is now welcome to address the Commission Regarding items that do not appear on tonights agenda but are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. Speakers shall address their remarks, to the commission, whole and n
An informed decision, we have to review this. We asked to be a reevaluation of the use of force. There is tasers in there and a considerable amount of taser information in here. The question im raising is is are we going to vote on the process on did i miss the vote. I dont remember a vote coming in here. Now we have these things and the question are we going to do it the way you want to do it through a committee or consider this separately. Thats a process issue for me. Part of what i will say is that the departmental general order actually doesnt authorize electronic controlled device commissioner dejesus. Its a bureau order which actually normally doesnt require this commission approving it. I dont know, chief as to why you structured it that way. I will say part of my job as Commission President is to proceed and set up the process in the agenda. That is not a matter of something that we vote on. Chief suhr . First i dont want people to think that shields were left out. Shields are
Very well taken. I think that tasers is a much bigger conversation in the use of force. I think we have to look at the lay of land we are in and as with the conversation with the Body Worn Cameras, process does practices and procedures does matter. With your point there is a danger. If we are not going to talk about tasers and we are not going to hear what department of justice has to say about tasers and talk about deescalation and then this commission is going to vote on tasers. I think there are some problems in doing it that way, every commissioner has a right to vote no, but once the department has asked for this as part of what weve asked which is a reengineering use of force and the department is saying and you dont have to agree, none of us have had the time to decide whether we agree yet, that their point in order to get the 15 minutes of time that we know could reduce the likelihood of an officer to use this force, that electronically controlled device that would be part of a