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Shep? shepard: all right, alicia, thanks. when they moved the reporters back so far from that area. five miles back. didn t allow helicopters in the air. you know, at one point we got reports that he he may have had the h. not 50 cal but he may have the had the ability to shoot surface to air. that s what we have heard. we know as you mentioned earlier the smoke bombs that he used. the smoke grenades rather that he used to try to throw police off his track or at least confuse them to give him some time to get away. and by the way, scanner traffic, which has kind of died down is really up until a few minutes ago saying that the explosion or ammunition inside that cabin continued to go of ojust pop pop pop pop pop kind of continually after they heard that one shot inside. now they are going to wait and go in and identify to see that ....
Waiting to process the crime scene. but that a lot of people, especially a lot of cops, 40 of them named in this vendetta, in this manifesto that he put out there. 40 of them named and their families clearly very relieved by the scene that you are seeing play out live in big bear at 447 in the afternoon here on the west coast, shep. shepard: trace, what more do we know if anything about the couple whom he has been holding or had been holding hostage, i guess, until this morning? you know, that s the thing is we know very little about them. the initial report was that he went in and he pulled off a home invasion this morning and he tied this couple up. and then he stole their truck. and that was their truck that he was pulled over with or at least was confronted by fish and game. well, as you get into the story you find out that he apparently had been inside this cabin near the golf course, near the command post for at least one day, maybe ....
Grenades and cs canisters. fish and game was shot at returned fire. copy, fish and game e.m.s. were shot at and they returned fire. confirm they want to stop all traffic and check it prior to coming off the hill. trace: that was from earlier. you can see and hear the tense voices of the police officers involved. we are just getting notice, shep, that the ammunition continues to go off inside that cabin. and now the fire department wants to know if there are propane tanks that could go off. there don t appear to be any. again, the fire department is standing down, shep? shepard: very interesting to know that he had deployed a smoke bomb at the beginning of this standoff in that cabin there and had used that in an attempt to have a shootout with police. we don t really have any way to know how he may have met his end or, frankly, to 100% certainty whether he has. i can tell you that two people were held hostage by this man from days ago. apparently that s where he has ....
Been hiding out in a cabin where two people were tied up. one of them escaped. and those two people may be able to give us a wealth of information about what was going on with this man over that period of time. in the meantime, the scramble is on to find out where the situation stands right now. let s listen in to kttv their continuing live coverage. they may be busy with air traffic up there at big bear, but. carlos, it s interesting because the expert we had on described it as a scenario where they would wait. the time was on their side. yeah. but. shepard: clearly some audio problems going on with our feed from los angeles. but the next step will be, of course, for this fire to go out and for them to identify the remains or find the remains if they have not already. when he fired when they fired tear gas into this building, my understanding is this is is a small cabin with even smaller ones surrounding ....
coming at us now. cops say the father grabbed the girl from her mom s home in los angeles at about 10:00 at night. she called the cops and the chase began. the suspect drove erratically at one point backing up toward police cars before hitting the gas and taking off. cops say they used a spike strip to slow him down and he eventually pulled over. he had the door open and hopefully he will be surrendering peacefully to the l.a.p.d. shepard: but he wasn t ready to give up minutes ticked by as he had stood there with his daughter. cops saw the chance as he sat down with the child on his lap. officers swarmed him, grabbed the girl and put dad down on the pavement. police say the child is okay. she wore a big smile for reporters. what is your name? [inaudible] as for dad, he didn t have any clear answers about why he did this. did you kidnap your kid? ....