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Have more power and the recall of them can get in the room and make to decisions. s senator lankford and senator ernst trying to reform the budget process. there s more to it than just a shutdown. it s congressional leadership trying to keep power until the last minute to make decisions in a closed-door room without the entire congress. brian: what leverage does the president have in the lame duck sessions? what does nancy pelosi have to do? what does schumer have to do, and what they want in return? besides going home for christma christmas. guaranteed to do infrastructure for stuff in the new year. juan: i think it s going to be an effort to try to get something done but i don t think giving him a wall which everybody says is pretty ineffective jesse: everyone does not say it s ineffective. maybe you saved ineffective. juan: jim comey taking another shot at president trump and tells americans who they ....
In wisconsin, down to two weeks. the republican legislature is also doing the same thing. this has happened before in many a legislature. democrats have done this in the past to republican governors in lame duck sessions in other states. joining me from the state capitol of madison is wisconsin s incoming governor, tony evers. governor-elect evers, welcome to meet the press. good morning, chuck. let me start with this. you said you were going to personally lobby scott walker, the governor who you defeated, to veto this legislation. how have those talks gone? have you met with him? i communicated with governor walker over the telephone a few days ago, and laid out my position that vetoing the ....
it is up to walker to sign the legislation. democrats believe he will, and they are calling it like they see it. many of the actions taken today will invalidate the results of the will of the people and shows direct contempt for the voters. many of the acts taken today were not discussed ever during the campaign. so here s a question. so what does it say about our democratic process when the party losing power uses lame duck sessions to stifle the incoming party? joining me now is martha laning, the wisconsin democratic chairwoman. good evening. thank you so much for joining us. you doing okay? i am great and happy to be here. this is, martha, about the norms of our country. when you lose an election fair and square you re supposed to step aside, let the winner govern. i don t know, what would you call about what s happening here? this is clearly a power grab. the foundation of our democracy depends upon a smooth transition of power. it depends upon us respecting ....
Strategist and director of progressive programming at sirius xm. they re both msnbc political analysts. a lot to unpack here. what is going on? what happened to the sanctity of the ballot box and honoring the will of the people? look, i think that we have a long history of challenges that are related to voting. certainly people have bled and died to get the right to vote because it is so valuable. i think that certainly as a consequence of elections, lame duck sessions, often there s a lot of activity. everybody remembers during the lame duck session in president obama s administration, we repealed don t ask, don t tell. that was one thing that they did during the lame duck session during his tenure that was controversial, i think, at the time for people who are opposed to that policy. but i do think in this moment as citizens, we still need to put the pressure on these folks because we need to understand why they re power grabbing, why are they doing this? it s not just because th ....