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serial liar and truth, in this country, is consistently under assault. there is also one other big complicating factor, the case is about highly classified and sensitive national security information. nancy gardner stripped served as a federal government judge for and joins me. now nancy, glad to have you with. this i would say it is a complicated conversation, but i think a lot of people now are demanding because of the unprecedented nature of this, there needs to be more transparency and as much transparency as possible. how can the court balance the need for a public trial with the classified information involved in this case? let me start of the classified information issue, because that actually is an enormous complication. even if you are sitting in the courtroom is a member of the public physically there, you may not be entitled to see the evidence that is being presented in this case. there could be circumstances

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