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Mueller s lawyer said at the sentencing hearing he gave us nothing and maybe because he had nothing. and so he ends up with 47 months, and i think that it sort of suggests he did commit a crime. he lied, he hid the tax returns, but this suggests that this is what is going to come from the mueller report. and after the president was saying two years and all this investigation, we re coming up with less than we expected. charles: and, kim, on that note, this is perhaps why the democrats are really getting ready, i guess, for the ultimate. they re digging into every crevice of president trump s life, and who knows how far they re prepared to go, but maybe mueller has come up with a dry hole which would be very embarrassing for them. yeah, it s a huge admission, because we are moving on to stage two. and now suddenly, charles, your not hearing any of these names that we ve heard so much over the last years, manafort, cohen, ....
Group coming in through the borders right now. the ninth circuit court of appeals this week ruled that these immigrants have habeas corpus guarantees. more of them are going to come now. so congress and the president have got to sit down and figure out a way to rationallallize the immigration system and address this, because it has become a general win crisis. charles: kim, do you still think, ultimately, the president will get this funding, that this will survive his veto? yeah, i absolutely do. look, they kept the numbers very low in the house in terms of the republicans who actually voted against it. and, you know, you have to have two-thirds of both the senate and the house to override a veto. so whatever the numbers come out to be in the senate, it would be very tough for congress to, ultimately, override that veto. i think he gets his money. but they ought to be putting this aside and moving more quickly because dan s and gillian put their finger on it, ....
Going to determine who gets that nomination. charles: spa, kim and, kim, we haven t mentioned bernie sanders yet. the change also in i california s up first or in the beginning someone like a kamala harris could gain the sort of momentum, maybe go for those votes that dan just talked about, the women hillary voters. yeah, but how to do you actually do that, that s the question that i don t really understand. you know, this was encapsulated very well this week in this fight that we re seeing going on between wisconsin democrats who want democrats to hold their convention in wisconsin in 2020 and miami democrats. and this is the fundamental choice facing the apparently which is do you go after these multicultural minority, coastal state voters, or do you go after these blue collar voters who for a while democrats were convinced this was their problem, it s why they lost in 2016, trump got those voters, they need to get them back. ....
Chairman richard neal is probably going to try to get held of president trump s tax returns from the treasury department. and pretty clearly the strategy here is political and is, again, to make the argument, make the case, suggest to the american people that we have an unacceptable president in donald trump. they re going to try and dig up all this dirt. but, charles, this is so far from the original charge which was collusion with the russians. charles: right. so ultimately, it looks completely political. and as bill s suggesting, the american people are going to have to make a decision whether that is an acceptable way to run the house of representatives. charles: and, kim, re democrats, rather, are being very careful not to throw out the i-word, impeachment, just yet also. well, very interesting listening, mr. nadler let the cat out of the bag. he said, look, the president has already obstructed justice. but in his mind that s the case, ....
Going on for the last two and a half years. charles: all this as former trump campaign chairman paul manafort is sentenced to just 47 months in prison on tax and bank fraud charges, far shorter than what was recommended by the special counsel s office. let s bring in the wall street journal s deputy editor, dan henninger. kim strassel and bill mcgurn with us as well. it just never stops, but going into the weekend, everyone s still kind of reeling from the manafort sentencing. yeah, the 47 months instead of the 21 years that they expected him to get. i think in many ways, charles, this is a preview of the mueller anti-climax to come. because the manafort was being concentrated on here because he had been donald trump s campaign manager. his case was handed off from the justice department to mueller s investigation in the expectation he would give them information about trump and collusion. ....