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Transcripts for MSNBC MTP Daily 20211124 18:48:00

said. again, all three men convicted of felony murder in the killing of ahmaud arbery. although, the counts differ for the three men. let s try to figure out what exactly happened there. danny, the big headline, travis mcmichael, the man who pulled the trig r, held the gun, pulled the trigger, found guilty of all nine counts. his father not found guilty of malice murder. that s count one. why would the jury decide that? that s an interesting result. what the jury is saying is that travis mcmichael committed felonies. those felonies resulted in the death of ahmaud arbery and that he intended at least with malice as that s defined in the law to shoot and kill ahmaud arbery. what the jury concluded apparently as to his father was that he was guilty of all the felonies, false imprisonment, threatening him with a gun and that those felonies caused the death of ahmaud arbery. although they concluded that he did not actually cause the death

Transcripts for CNN At This Hour With Kate Bolduan 20211123 16:45:00

victim shaming, not just victim shaming but also destroying the character of ahmaud arbery. this had nothing to do with what happened on february 23rd of 2020. she sunk low in trying to appeal to probably the racial undertones that she believes this jury may have. in terms of how the prosecution handled it, the prosecution didn t really delve deep in. however, the prosecutor did call her out and said that the defense wanted to result and victim blaming. but victim blaming does not get you to an akucquittal. what is it that you saw that caused them to chase, hunt, detain, and you wouldly kill ahmaud arbery? and once you get to those facts and apply them to the law, then you will find that these defendants are guilty. so let s forget the victim blaming and the victim naming and the name-calling. so this is now in the hands of this jury.

Transcripts for MSNBC Craig Melvin Reports 20211119 16:33:00

however, as you pointed out through that footage, that citizen s arrest or citizen s hero type ideal, i did not think came across strongly. i do not think. i think the prosecution did a phenomenal job with their cross examination, teasing out how this is not self-defense. teasing out how mr. arbery did not pose any type of threat. and why these guys should just have let him run. let him do his thing. jogging through the neighborhood. because there was no real crime that was suspected here. i think another thing that mr. mcmichaels did was he tried to garner some sympathy with the jury by saying hey, you know, when i pointed the gun and i felt like he was trying to grab the trigger, i had to shoot. i only thought of my son. he was trying to garner sympathy. i think that was undermined by the cross examination of the prosecution. notwithstanding those very graphic photos, and the number of bullets that were shot at mr. arbery from the medical

Transcripts for MSNBC Craig Melvin Reports 20211119 16:32:00

it s going to be hard for them to make that self-defense. not only from the footage that you showed but also what katie was talking about earlier. ahmaud arbery posed no real threat. i think what their best argument is, and we saw this from the number of witnesses that they put on the stand, was that these three individuals were citizen s heros. they were seeking to merely stop ahmaud arbery. and when they tried to engage in that citizen s arrest, which you know now, that statute is now repealed. it was in place at the time. so it is a defense they can use. when they attempted to engage in that citizen s arrest, believing that mr. arbery had committed some type of a burglarly, things kind of went ugly, and then they had the turn to the citizen s arrest into self-defense which is when ahmaud arbery had grabbed the gun allegedly. that s why you heard travis testify. that narrative had to come out.

Transcripts for MSNBC Craig Melvin Reports 20211119 16:28:00

white supremacist movements need to think about before they condone violence. ken, keep us posted on this trial. that is this case that s going to the jury there in charlottesville. ken, thank you. meanwhile, closing arguments set to get underway monday in the trial for the three men accused of kill ahmaud arbery. mcmichael is accused of firing the fatal shot that killed arbery. nbc s katie beck is outside the courthouse in brunswick, georgia. also joining me a former prosecutor, civil rights attorney and now an msnbc legal analyst. katie, i ll start with you. court adjourned until monday morning. what can we expect from closing arguments and how soon do we expect the jury to get this case? yeah, i think the climax of the case so far really happened yesterday when travis mcmichael

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