the isis, for example, and trying to lure them in to joining their caliphate in syria. a few hundreds have gone there so far. the concern now is what, if any indonesians, have come back here from syria, came back here more determined or more capable of launching attacks in indonesia. kathy, let s talk about that. there has been no claim of responsibility at this point, at least. it is fairly early. but we know that there has been heightened alert there in jakarta and across indonesia for fears of this east indonesia. talk to us about that group. how many people are involved. the leader, what sort of threat they pose, and what sort of attacks they have carried out in the past. reporter: well, you know, we spoke to several terror analysts here and even police authorities
kathy, as we get this word from rueter, what more can you tell us? well, isha, we cannot independently confirm that information as of yet, but we do know that police were in pursuit of an armed suspect earlier after the gun fight. and the grenade explosions. and they were reportedly inside an office building, skyline building. i earlier saw heavily armed policemen, a special forces going into the building. as i left that building, i also thought it seems the operation had winded down. i m told now that police are still inside the building, although journalists and bystanders are able to go closer. and what we saw there was a starbucks cafe where the gun fight allegedly happened. all the windows are blown out in the aftermath of the gun fight
radicalization does not spread. it s still a minority of groups who espouse to launch terror attacks in indonesia. all right. cnn s kathy joining us there from central jakarta and clarifying, six civilians killed, perhaps seven, and these numbers may rise. at this point, we know one of them is a foreigner. we do not know the nationality of that particular victim. thank you so much, kathy, for joining us. we ll return to you very soon. and at this moment, it s just past 3:00 p.m. there in jakarta. the it s the afternoon. this unfolded in the past three or four hours. this attack taking place in the middle of the day in a busy part of the city. for people there, it was extremely frightening. earlier i spoke with jeremy dougl douglas whose with the u.n. office. he witnessed the attack and earlier told me what he saw.
kathy joining us with more on the story. as we ve just been reporting, we understand six people, including one foreigner, have been killed, and in addition to the four suspects who were killed. and then there are ten people who have been injured and one of them is a foreigner as well. at this point, we don t know the nationalities. talk to us about what more you re hearing from authorities there in jakarta. reporter: well, rosemary, we know that at least six, maybe even seven people killed. one of them has not been identified, and maybe that s why the number six is being reported so far. but we do know that civilians have been killed, and the gun battle and explosions that happened earlier today in jakarta. we assume the victims were near or in the starbucks coffee shop that was first targeted. eyewitnesss say the first explosion did happen in
fight in the building. isha? kathy, we re having a few problems with your audio. it s not very clear. so apologies to our viewers for that. but let me just get some clarification. are you saying that the operation in the skyline building is over? is that what you re saying? i left a few minutes ago and walked further down the street. but the police let journalists and bystanders come in. they took out some of the [ no audio ] okay, we ve got some problems with kathy s line there. kathy with eel have to leave it there. we re having some problems hearing you. we appreciate the reporting and for the update. just to remind our viewers what kathy said there, she left the skyline building where police had surrounded with the thought that maybe some gunman, or at least one gunman had gone inside. she passed a starbucks cafe with