follows michael cohen two is just kind of an interesting twist as well he s read some quotes from our the deal, which always i think perks up their ears. but however, the thing i think they re really looking at are the two lawyers they ve got to corporate lawyers on there. i think they re going to look at them to calf some strength and carry some water for them in terms of whether the prosecution has as being met the burden of proof. and whether there s this sort of unique theory that they put forth and whether it passes the smell test what do you think ally about this juror number two, and i also i m curious what you thought about the central lawyers so i completely agree with my colleague here, the jury consultant. those are the three that i think i would like on the defense, sayyed, the lawyers. first of all, the defense here is going to be largely technical and you want people who aren t going to get swept up in whatever feelings people may have about donald trump. be able to
honig also jury consultant. richard gabriel is here as well. gentlemen. thank you both for being here. we know that this trial is going to begin an ally. let me begin with you, because the prosecution says they intend to call their first witness. of course, after opening statements. but on monday, but that they won t tell trump s team who that person will be until the day before. so what will the prosecution really be looking for out of whoever their first witness is going to be well, you want to start a safe and you want to start strong, laura, you don t want to you re certainly not going to put michael cohen up there. let s put it that way to start off. you want to this is your first time you re really showing any evidence to the jury. and so you want to give them somebody who establishes a bedrock foundation of your case. so i suspect it might be a witness through whom they can get in some of the financial records. for example, we know that a key part of this case was the fact
now you can tell are openings to make arguments are resonate and you keep that in mind as you go through the witness testimony and the evidence, you use certain language, you have certain perspectives now because really you re just trying to win the case with these 12 jurors. now, those are the only ones that matter. and so jury consultants understand the art of persuasion and how you can help empower jurors into deliberation argue your point of view to win the case? elleithee, i assume that that s the stuff of defense counsel and that on the public dime, you didn t have the ability to hire allen or someone in alan s role, but if if your opponent had, would you try and out the fact that they needed a jury consultant? well, you re right, michael prosecutors don t pay for jury consultants, although they did in the martha stewart cadence case actually, and prosecutors have said publicly, they felt that it was useful. there s no way you would be able to get in the fact that the other
think it s really interesting what allen said that is that a jury consultant would ordinarily stay on the case because when you re a prosecutor, you are trained, you are you are desperate to look in that jury box. you want to see how are they reacting? you re casting looks over there, but you can t do that because you re going to freak them out. you have to act cool. but it would would been great to have someone like alan sitting back in the gallery watching them during number six really reacted strongly negatively when this happened. that would have been invaluable to me, but we didn t have the cash. we were just the federal government alan, give me 30 seconds. your takeaway from the constitution of this jury as well as the alternative. what are you most want us to know? well, i just think that since they went through the process, i think i think they re neutral right now. i think that s it s interesting that most juries that sit for a duration of five or six weeks usually, us
mean i can t be impartial. i don t like some of my coworkers, but i am not going to but i can hear him out and understand his point of view and understand his issues. alan turkheimer, your thought? judge, heard the juror said that that doesn t mean i can t be impartial. i think that s all he needed to not dismiss this juror for cause and trump s team has to just hope that the other jurors, raina s juror ran if they go down a path that s bad for trump and there s some strong personalities on the jury would appear. and so they just have to hope that this juror can be open, as they said, and look at the evidence as it comes in and make a fair determination when it comes time to deliberate alan is a person in your role as a jury consultant finished. now, in a case like this, until you get to question the jurors when it s over, or do you play an ongoing role advising council as how to pitch their case we would advise council we d help them craft for opening. now that the lawyers we kn