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Language and geography and demographics . Yes. All right. Thank you. Any other questions . Commissioner moran. Thank you chair. We received correspondence suggesting in our effort to fully inform everybody what opt out means that were getting close to a opt in program that would violate state law, and i assume that we have looked at what the limits are that the law imposes on us. Would you elaborate a little bit how what were doing has been shaped to fit within the state law or on the other hand where is there jeopardy for us . So the notification and Education Program survey and early notification portions are the sort of the new pieces that arent required by state law. We are using those outreach efforts, those outreach components to inform who we talk to in the actual statutory opt out phase. We are not suggesting that anyone who is going to be served by cleanpower sf would not receive an opt out notification. Anyone who wis ....
Mailers regionalized by language and geography and demographics . Yes. All right. Thank you. Any other questions . Commissioner moran. Thank you chair. We received correspondence suggesting in our effort to fully inform everybody what opt out means that were getting close to a opt in program that would violate state law, and i assume that we have looked at what the limits are that the law imposes on us. Would you elaborate a little bit how what were doing has been shaped to fit within the state law or on the other hand where is there jeopardy for us . So the notification and Education Program survey and early notification portions are the sort of the new pieces that arent required by state law. We are using those outreach efforts, those outreach components to inform who we talk to in the actual statutory opt out phase. We are not suggesting that anyone who is going to be served by cleanpower sf would not receive an opt out noti ....
Sure obviously if were surveying people and were presenting these numbers, and the actual is actually lower that were not, you know, unintentionally creating a fear, anxiety among potential customers that isnt based in, you know, what is the ultimate figures or whatever. Thats all. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. So by march then we will have this not to exceed rate that we have talked about, and we will move forward into the actual sort of retail part of our early Notification Program where we will be focusing on the residents that are in the deep green precincts and this is a refreshed informed deep green from the survey that we just took and we will talk to those folks. We anticipate working with Community Based organizations and programs like environment now to target 20,000 households. We expect that we will actually reach and have direct conversations with 5400 households ....
And i dont know, at what point that happens, but because it was a public hearing, at the fppc, is that right . Yes. It was. , yes. It just feels like we are being backed into the corner of having to have a discussion that is either nice to have new, or late to the game, i dont understand the full process themselves and so would they be having this discussion, in public . Or in private . They are hearing and we said that we will discuss this and typically in closed session. And somehow, they did. What if they discussed it in the closed session they discussed it in public session. I guess what i am struggling with, the moment that they do that, they immediately set some balls in motion for us that then, in some kind of a way have us talking about it tonight, just like this, which makes it feel like i want or not necessarily the staff did not do the good work because i know that they did but it feels like the commission did not get an opportunity to indulge in some kind of a way and i don ....
Out mailers be sent to each customer that we intend to include in our cleanpower sf program. We will be in a position then as we talked before to know what the actual price is, not the not to exceed rate, but the actual wholesale price from shell that becomes our actual rate. We will be able to share with customers the actual Price Premium that they would experience knowing how much they typically consume at their household each month. Its at this point that we will have signed the confirmation with shell. We will then be at this point financially obligated under this program. The opt out mailers then will begin to be sent with this detail. We will do multilanguage, english, chinese, spanish. We will have customers able to opt out respond to us via snail mail or email. We will make sure that we meet the minimum requirements of the law, which is two of the notifications must be mailed before service occurs, and then two of the notif ....