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power needs to make sure we put into the resolution a very clear penalty if syria doesn t comply. certainly we know that there has to be penalties. and so those penalties have to be very clear inside the resolution, the way that this works at the u.n., is, security council members get to decide whether they right the resolution under what we call chapter 6 or chapter 7 mandates. the chapter 6 mandate literally says you can not use force. there are no guns allowed. so we can t really write this under chapter 6 and be serious. jon: so what is she to do? i mean what are her choices? are you sympathetic to the situation which she finds herself? well, look, i ve sat across the table with russia as million times and they always say they re against resolutions. would russia would say they were against all five iran resolutions that we in the bush administration forced them to a vote. you can t listen to what they re saying. they re very good at the pr game but i think what you have to do

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