con text to try to make sure that i wasn t as effective as a leader moving forward. shulkin was also asked how specifically he learned he had been fired. he wouldn t weigh in on that. i can tell you two white house officials have told nbc news that he was informed during a phone call with the chief of staff general john kelly during the day prior to the president s tweet that came out last night. so the president didn t fire him, it was his chief of staff? that s according to two white house officials. okay, thank you so much, kristen. my panel, john shuttllts. michael steele is former rnc chairman. liz smith, a democratic strategist. john, your members are all impacted by this. what s your thought about jackson? unprepared, completely unprepared. i m sure he s a great doctor but if you ve been following the