i want to invite you to give a listen to our ken and podcasts and art art news podcast, the russian file. let me just remind everybody that throughout the conversation and we forgot quite a few of them, you can submit questions by e-mail, via twitter and facebook pages and please do include your name and affiliation just as if you re attending a live event of the wilson center which hope we can do against it. i d be more likely to call on you for not an anonymous blurt out. i m join today i dr. fiona hill was a senior fellow and center for the next it s a joke in the foreign policy program of the brookings institution and, of course, is that one will knows served as deputy assistant to the president and senior director for european and russian affairs on national security council. that was 2017-19. from 2006-nine she also served as national intelligence officer for russia and eurasia at the national intelligence council and is co-author of of the very well received and widely
due to in the us what we see here is a person who s due process rights for 10 years have been violated severely and systematically in all jurisdictions and all equal proceedings against him at every stage of this proceeding and that s something that s very difficult to comprehend that that s possible in democratic states rule of law states is that the u.k. sweden in the u.s. will ecuador you can t rely on any authority to protect your rights and this constant threats to be extradited to a country where you face a secret trial based on secret evidence you know by the jury elected in a population who are 85 percent of the population works for cia n.s.a. d.o.d. or deal s. around alexandria needs to get into the the infamous espionage court. adjudicated by the same judge as every single other national security defendant in recent years . this is not going to be a fair trial you know that so if you re in this situation this constant threat to be extradited there and then to receiv
a fair trial you know that so if you re in this situation this constant threat to be extradited there and then to receive a draconian punishment of 175 years or maybe to reduce it to 120 in prison in the supermax prison and we know what the conditions are like there this is this crosses the line of cruel inhuman and degrading treatment that s not just my opinion that s a consistent opinion of myself my mandate my predecessors everybody that s actually seriously deals with that that s the threat scenario he faced for years is not being taken seriously he s been ridiculed by the press he s been mobbed by areas authorities he s been accused of all kinds of things but not given a fair chance to actually defend himself we have a swedish proceeding that is in a preliminary investigation stage for 9 years well yes the media care in fairness to them said this is. thing to do with the revelations of war crimes people have seen the video that julius and his organization released of the
seriously deals with that that s the threat scenario he faced 4 years is not being taken seriously he s been ridiculed by the press he s been more bitter various authorities he s been accused of all kinds of things but not given a fair chance to actually defend himself we have a swedish proceeding that is in a preliminary investigation stage for 9 years well yes the media care in fairness to them said this is nothing to do with the revelations of war crimes people have seen the video that his organization released of the cold blooded killing of journalists is not about that it s about this we didn t. allegations and i understand you claim there are 50 perceive process violations by the swedish authorities in this case yes well i am all eyes meticulously all the documents that were made available to me including the original 1st questioning d of police reports that the the alleged victims the older the email correspondence that has leaked between the crown prosecution service
a population who are 85 percent of the population works for cia n.s.a. d.o.d. or deal s. around alexandra needs to get into the the infamous espionage court. adjudicated by the same judge as every single other national security defendant in recent years. this is not going to be a fair trial you know that so if you re in this situation this constant threat to be extradited there and then to receive a draconian punishment of 175 years or maybe to reduce it to 120 in prison in the supermax prison and we know what the conditions are like there this is this crosses the line of cruel inhuman and degrading treatment that s not just my opinion that s a consistent opinion of myself my mandate my predecessors everybody that s actually seriously deals with that and that s the threat scenario he faced 4 years is not being taken seriously he s been ridiculed by the press he s been mobbed by the hairiest authorities he s been accused of all kinds of things but not given a fair chance to ac