from you in person, instead of hearing from the media. this is the first time, and the only time that i had threat conversation with him. and i said i would like to see just speak to you at some stage to get your side of the story, effectively. i cannot be there in march. i m going to iraq for he said he was very busy, because involve the saddam, rack at the time. i will be there very polite, very sincere. i can bring you documents, if you want. [inaudible] i arranged a meeting with him. [inaudible] the day came, i waited, he didn t turn up. all the signs were, when we were going through it, it s charade. okay, i ll go along. i ll play the game. i have never had a case like that before, which became so personal. the devils advocate, mr. murder, call him what he is. he is the who s who of the criminal world. giovanni destefano is one of the attorneys representing saddam hussein. mr. di stefano, good morning to you. good morning, katie. [inau
there is the current investigation. it would be nice to have heard from you in person, instead of hearing from the media. this is the first time, and the only time that i had threat conversation with him. and i said i would like to see just speak to you at some stage to get your side of the story, effectively. i cannot be there in march. i m going to be in iraq for for five days. his city was very busy. it was involved with saddam, iraq at that time. i will be there very polite, very sincere. i can bring you documents, if you want. [inaudible] i arranged a meeting with him. [inaudible] the day came, i waited, he didn t turn up. all the signs were, when we were going through it, it s charade. okay, i ll go along. i ll play the game. i have never had a case like that before, which became so personal. the devils advocate, mr. murder, call him what he is. he is the who s who of the criminal world. giovanni destefano is one of the attorneys representi
[inaudible] there is the current investigation. it would be nice to have heard from you in person, instead of hearing from the media. this is the first time, and the only time that i had threat conversation with him. and i said i would like to see just speak to you at some stage to get your side of the story, effectively. i cannot be there in march. i m going to be in iraq for four, five days. his city was very busy. it was involved with saddam, iraq at that time. i will be there very polite, very sincere. i can bring you documents, if you want. [inaudible] i arranged a meeting with him. [inaudible] last they came, last i came, i waited, he didn t turn up. all the signs were, when we were going through it, it s charade. okay, i ll go along. outplay the game. i would never have a case like that before, which became so personal. the devils advocate, mr. murder, call him what he is. he is the who s who of the criminal world. giovanni destefano is
on march 19th 1996, john di stefano was sent to jail for five years. when reporter mike valentine demanded some sort of proof of his whereabouts during the mid 1980s, giovanni di stefano produced his italian passport. just allowed for three years. in 87, renewing my passport with the italian consulate. he proceeded to try to show me the passport, but it could not be him, because on the relevant dates he was a free man traveling around the world. as i pushed him on it, he would skirt from i think, 1983 to 1987 on his passport. i pay my taxes. a little bit of a gap between 83 and 88. how can you have a gap? you should see 87.
after i had exposed him, you know, and got him out of new zealand, i thought that was the end of it. but then, i got a phone call from the officers, di stefano was at the airport. and the decision was made that we d follow him, and i went to find him, and tapped him on the shoulder, and said [inaudible] i hadn t seen the other side to john or giovanni. and at that stage [inaudible] i m gonna knock you bleep now piss off. hold on. get out of here.