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From the whistle-blower? very soon. you know, it will depend probably more on how quickly the director of national intelligence can cleat the security clearance process for the whistle-blower s lawyers. but we re ready to hear from the whistle-blower as soon as that is done. as soon as that s done. this matters because unlike the mueller probe, where key witnesses such as don mcgahn were fighting to ever speak to congress, here you have a person heading in, ready to tell all. and meanwhile, there are also these new details emerging about donald trump s secret effort to pressure ukraine into targeting his political rivals. fox news reporting trump lawyer rudy giuliani was not acting alone in these efforts to get dirt on biden and saying trump knew about it. two high profile washington lawyers, joe degeneva, who has been a fierce critic of the democratic investigation and his wife victoria toensing were ....
I mean, talk about a dirty cop. sean: one day we ll do a poll, who is your favorite of the dynamic legal duo? victoria or joe? we will do a poll. let s get back to this though joe. were all four warrants illegally obtained?with the evidence befo, it s cut and dry. joe: based on what we know and what we ve seen, there is no doubt that all four were illegally obtained.they certain- the court was defrauded. it was denied evidence. it was given fraudulent evidence. the applications clearly did not tell the truth about carter page, about everybody involved in the process. i mean, there is just no doubt that all four were illegally obtained. victoria: let me add something, because you were talking about three times, five times, they were warned. they didn t have to be warned one time for them to have done something wrong, because they ....
sean: let me interrupt you, though. would you, this is your wheelhouse, do you see what i see, which is irrefutable overwhelming evidence? joe: absolutely. i don t think there s any doubt that the fisa court was abused that fraud was commuted on that court knowingly, not only by fbi officials, but by department of justice officials. absolutely. what laws are applicable in the case like this? well, obstruction of justice is the most obvious one. also, there s civil liability.ts due process. i want to go back to what mccabe said about he didn t intentionallyn lie.he said in , he was really very busy. what does that sound like, sean? that sounds like what michael flynn said. here s the deal that was offered michael flynn.you plead guilty y or we re going to go after your son. bill barr s justice department did not do thatto mccabe. he could have gone after his wife, who took over $700,000 when she was running for state office in virginia. while the fbi was investigating hillary. ....
Couldn t verify what was in that application. sean: the fact that they were warned makes it worse, and i m the non-lawyer here. five warnings. five separate warnings victoria. wow. don t trust this guy. he s got a political agenda. hillary paid for it. it s not verified and it says on the top of the fisa warrantverye educated me on this, verified. if it s unverifiable, that meani you committed a fraud on the ecourt and obstructed justiceans constitutional rights, and also tried t to undo the electi. joe: by the way andrew mccabe s famous testimony on capital hill, without the steele dossier, there is no fisa warrant. andrew mccabe knew that steele dossier was false and fraudulent, unverified, and completely unverifiable, and yet, he went along with using it in the fisa court. sean: i m going to put that poll up one of these days. victoria: no, don t do that. we love each other. ....
The bulk of information. now, two reports confirm this,wf hillary clinton. to me, that is premeditated. comey definitely liedto presidet trump tower. the question now is, will americans seek equal justice you under the attorney general. joe: i don t have any doubt that bill barr is going to enforce the law and seek charges where they are appropriate. i think the upcoming report on the fisa abuses will show that mccabe, comey and othersengageda court and whether or not that is sufficient to bring criminal charges, i will leave that up to bill barr. ....