not just meetings, but with action. that makes a difference. the task force hopefully produces some success with what the president is done here, in a very short time. it s not only a short success, but we are going to fix the problem long term. the top of the problem right now is trucking in our country. what is some of the s retaining drivers we have enough trained drivers in the united states, but they don t want the job. one of the things that s been very clear for, looking at the retention numbers, is unionized truck drivers have a much higher job satisfaction level, and a much higher rate of retention in the job than the non unionized independence. you know, when you talk about unionized talk drivers, oftentimes you talk about a living wage, you re talking about the ability to turn a pension, you talking about, in some cases, health care.