churches getting too much money ever, ever again. exactly right. we only have about a minute. the point is all of these categories, 29 categories, they have freedom of speech. no speech restriction on them at all. only one category, 501c3, under which all churches fall, that s the only one under not for rpor speech restrictions placed upon it. we think that violates the constitution s first amendment. jim, it s a pleasure. it s interesting because i think it may be that the irs and the threat of the irs action has been hanging over the heads of pastors and churches for over 60 years. the fact is it s about time to test it and see if there s really any teeth in the tiger. we shall soon see. maybe they ll sue you. i just hope not me. that s my goal. jim, thanks so much. great to talk to you. always a pleasure, my friend. good to be with you, governor. thank you. the house is going to be taking up the senate s immigration reform bill.
listening to them yet if they continue to attack nonprofit organizations and conservative groups. but there has not been, to my knowledge, any church that s ever actually lost its tax-exempt status over take ag stand, or has there? there s been one for effectively a day. their irs tax letter was taken from them, upstate new york, a very well-known case a number of years ago. here s the key again. the irs can revoke your letter. they cannot take your tax-exempt status. why is that? because the irs, lead attorneys tell us, they go to every corporation, and it s either a for profit or 501c category. there s 25 categories under 501c, unions, screen actors guild, nfl. there s lots of not for profit organizations. the nfl is not for profit, jim? are you kidding me? is if that s not a profit, i don t ever want to hear about
a couple of weeks ago at my opening monologue in the show and at a speech at the southern baptist convention in houston, i suggested that churches might come to the place that they ll want to maybe even abandon their tax-exempt status just to protect religious freedom. not everyone agrees with me, not even my good friend jim garlo of the skyline church in san diego, who joins me now. jim, it s so good to talk to you and have you on the showed today. thank you, governor. jim, i know that my point was a little bit provocative on purpose, but the point is we are rapidly getting to the place where the government is wanting to regulate to a point where churches, faith groups are going to be treated differently because of their convictions. you think we re not quite to the point where we ought to say the tax-exempt status is maybe no longer valid. i want to give you an opportunity to express what would be a better way that we
a couple of weeks ago at my opening monologue in the show and at a speech at the southern baptist convention in houston, i suggested that churches might come to the place that they ll want to maybe even abandon their tax-exempt status just to protect religious freedom. not everyone agrees with me, not even my good friend jim garlo of the skyline church in san diego, who joins me now. jim, it s so good to talk to you and have you on the showed today. thank you, governor. jim, i know that my point was a little bit provocative on purpose, but the point is we are rapidly getting to the place where the government is wanting to regulate to a point where churches, faith groups are going to be treated differently because of their convictions. you think we re not quite to the point where we ought to say the tax-exempt status is maybe no longer valid. i want to give you an opportunity to express what would be a better way that we
churches getting too much money ever, ever again. exactly right. we only have about a minute. the point is all of these categories, 29 categories, they have freedom of speech. no speech restriction on them at all. only one category, 501c3, under which all churches fall, that s the only one under not for profit corporation, that has speech restrictions placed upon it. we think that violates the constitution s first amendment. jim, it s a pleasure. it s interesting because i think it may be that the irs and the threat of the irs action has been hanging over the heads of pastors and churches for over 60 years. the fact is it s about time to test it and see if there s really any teeth in the tiger. we shall soon see. maybe they ll sue you. i just hope not me. that s my goal. jim, thanks so much. great to talk to you. always a pleasure, my friend. good to be with you, governor. thank you. the house is going to be taking up the senate s immigration reform bill. coming up, we re g