Investigative file and the degree to which it could have well been made with good faith and that we have teased apart this particular category of communication within the ethics staff as being the one place where there might be documents that were appropriately disclosed suggests to me that was a reasonable basis. Would any of the commissioners like to hear from mr. St. Croix on this . Yes. I think that would be helpful. Mr. St. Croix, can you come to the podium, please . In terms of the three pages of documents in question once redacted they are rendered meaningless and as such, provide no usable public information. So just in defense of that, its not withholding any information that is usable by the complainant or any member of the public. In that regard i found dr. Kerrs comment informative. My Organization Files for requests and record requests with the state and think there is a difference between a document, however frustratingly redacted and no document at all. With that said, i
Were back in open session. Is there a motion to keep the discussions and deliberations relating to the matter that was discussed in confidential session, keep that confidential . That is perhaps not the most el eloquent motion i have ever made. [ laughter ] so moved. Second. Public comment . Hearing none, all in favor . Aye. Opposed . There are none. Mr. St. Croix, can you make the announcements . Finding of probable cause for Ethics Commission complaint 13111013, at its regular meeting of january 28th, 2013, in the matter of ethics complaint 131103,the Ethics Commission made a determination that there is probably cause to believe the following violations of the San Francisco campaign and governmental conduct code occurred and that the respondents committed them. One violation of San Francisco campaign and governmental conduct code section 1. 1 16 subsection a2 for reporting and receiving a loan to his candidate committee in excess of 120,000. Two, one violation of San Francisco campai
Needs to be taken, is there . Normally you would have a vote. A vote. From the action that the commission is acting me to take. Is there a motion to affirm the executive director submiting a budget that does not include the requested 1. 5 cut in the departments funding . So moved. Second. All in favor . Aye. Opposed . Hearing none, the motion passes. The next item on the agenda is discussion and possible action regarding a complaint received or ebitiated by the Ethics Commission, possible closed session. Public comment on all matters pertaining to agenda item vi, including whether to meet in closed session. Yes, i would just like to request that you be as specific as possible regarding the arraignments for reconvening the meeting and the minimum time it might take. The minimum amount of time it might take difficult to determine. I would do with give these estimates . Probably half an hour. Probably half an hour would be my guess, but its very difficult to determine in advance. Is there
Determine. I would do with give these estimates . Probably half an hour. Probably half an hour would be my guess, but its very difficult to determine in advance. Is there a motion to move into closed session under chapter section c3699. 13 . So moved. Second. All in favor . Aye. Opposed . Hearing none, we will move into closed session. With all due respect you didnt answer the other part of my question, are we going to leave and are you going to notify people in the hallway . Do we wait here and you retire to another room . So, if you would leave, that would be great . And will you notify people in the hallway when you were back in open session. Is there a motion to keep the discussions and deliberations relating to the matter that was discussed in confidential session, keep that confidential . That is perhaps not the most el eloquent motion i have ever made. [ laughter ] so moved. Second. Public comment . Hearing none, all in favor . Aye. Opposed . There are none. Mr. St. Croix, can y
From the staff and a chance for the complainant and respendent to speak. We have heard from the complainant and we have not heard from the respondent and it would help me to hear from mr. So st. Croix the rationale for disclosure. So i would encourage you to ask him that. Other questions from the commissioners . Commissioner studley, you wanted to wait until there was Public Comment. Is there anything else that you want to share is in . No, i agree with you and commissioner liu. I dont find this to be willful. Since the understanding that this was part of the investigative file and the degree to which it could have well been made with good faith and that we have teased apart this particular category of communication within the ethics staff as being the one place where there might be documents that were appropriately disclosed suggests to me that was a reasonable basis. Would any of the commissioners like to hear from mr. St. Croix on this . Yes. I think that would be helpful. Mr. St. C