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thomas webster perhaps going behind bars for any other january 6th defendant. nbc news confirming a court appearance for pat cipollone and pat philbin set to go in front of the grand jury in washington. the mississippi water crisis bad to worse, telling people to shower with their mouths closed. businesses still closed. students still learning remotely. the fema administrator will join us live later in the show about what is being done on the federal level to fix it. i m hallie jackson in washington. with me nbc news correspondent vaughn hill lard in west palm beach, ken dilanian, washington correspondent for the new york times and msnbc contributor charlie savage and former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade is joining us too. vaughn, start with you on the ground there outside the building where all the action is going down. bring us up to speed on what we need to know and what happens next? hallie, i was talking with our colleagues maria a ....
He does have political ties in florida. he is prominent in his role as a former solicitor jenle for the state. that means he has experience making appellate arguments about florida law. he s not a criminal defense lawyer. there s not a federal law guy. he s not someone who necessarily would seem to have any particular expertise in matters like executive privilege and separation of power issues and the fourth amendment and these sorts of things that will be key to this case. it s not entirely clear why he is the perfect hire for trump at this time, but he is the hire that trump has made at this time, and he, i understand, from our own reporting that was in the courtroom today, was the first to speak and talking about trying to lower the temperature and so forth. that s right. that was one of the first things he said, this has become, i m paraphrasing, kind of a spectacle, but talked about wanting to lower the temperature. vaughn, to you, the former president has been, to say the ....
Trump. i don t think jenle kelly with all of his dignity, when he tried to erase her from the scene, please leave the building, had any idea of what kind of order of battle she had. it is fascinating. this is one of the crisis that trump has responded to most strongly. an existential threat to the whole trump m.o. which is about being slippery with the truth. x one day, and y the next. you never know, but when there is hard evidence, you can t do that anymore. it throws a wrench into the whole thing. if you are trump and you think you are the smartest guy in your family, i think that is fair to assume, he thinks so. and these people in his family and then he finds out that lara bush got taped, his daughter-in-law and he is already worried about don junior ....
but the base can t win an election even though i remember looking at him and saying wow, you won that point, today i would say i m not sure he won that point. firing up the base doesn t win the election in a jenle. that is like the core depressing story of this campaign, right? you say something false and how you drive your mess ajd and cause a conversation. that s what obama did all summer claiming romney had killed this guy and then well, okay. super pac sort of walked it back. okay. i don t know that we re going to say obama all summer long said that romney killed obama s super pac. sharp mischaracterizations i would say on both sides of the the key message they drove with an overstatement. and that s how you do it. and romney at one point took obama outrageously out of context to drive conversation. i m not saying it s a good thing. it s a bad thing. the binders is a good example of that. binders is something where romney was trying to say an admiral t ....
Once. steve marks it down. do you agree with elizabeth warren s must-read opinion page, steve rattner? you have to agree with it. how can you not agree with something so general it s not jenle. go to bloomberg s fund-raiser for scott brown? no, you re not. when is that? no, you are not. i won t even be here. middle of august. you have guests coming. all right. will your check be there? i ll let you know. i ll get back to you on that. how s that race going up there by the way? it is close. really? brown is a little bit ahead and both sides are pretty confident. it s it is a like the presidential race hasn t moved very much. and boy, she is advertising. raised so much money. she is advertising nonstop. when i was in indiana, you would see her ads like every in the every olympic break. okay. i was in massachusetts. every olympic break she s running ads. they re all over the place. mark said, it really is, ....