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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 18:07:00

Could be, if the dam broke, as many as 10 to 12 flips in the course to have this vote. that does look like where we re headed. i said to watch chip roy. where he falls in the alphabet, he s a lagging indicator, but he was one of the leading negotiators with mccarthy and his allies. i do think given everything else we have seen, we should expect to see that was rosendale. we should probably expect to see roy go with mccarthy and his allies. and i risk being sent to msnbc jail for this, but i think i gave steve kornacki some bad math information either hern is still here today, he would be absent this weekend, so only two republican absences, which affects the math, but only the margins here. roy? i want to bring in dusty johnson. what did we just get in? ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 18:20:00

We have 21 republicans who had been voting against kevin mccarthy. 14 of them flipped on this ballot, exactly two-thirds. there are seven who continue to be holdouts. let s go through the list and remind you who they are. andy biggs, still a holdout. lauren boebert, eli cain of arizona, matt gaetz, bob good, andrea mitchell reports a andrs and seven republicans voting against kevin mccarthy who still voted against him on this ballot. every other republican who has been voting against kevin mccarthy, and that includes byron donalds, who was nominated several times as an alternate candidate voted for mccarthy. so he picked up 14 new republican votes. i believe if there were two republican absences today, that means there were 220 voting republicans. if seven of them defektd, that ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 18:18:00

Perry, chip roy along for this and they would bring 10 to 12 votes with them. we know that s exactly what we got. but the question is how they end up dealing with the holdouts. i know that gosar s name was just called. so he s for mccarthy. that s huge. i was told at the beginning of the day that i should go look for paul gosar somewhere because they weren t sure he would be able to get to yes. it sounded at some point like he have been digging in on the never side. wrr he was on the floor, he ended up getting to mccarthy. that s huge. do you have insights into what might have gotten him there? no, but it s largely possible that the concessions that were made to the larger group that was kind of under this chip roy umbrella could have been enough for gosar. maybe all it took was a little bit of extra pushing on the floor from some of his colleague, but from some of our eagle eye friends in the chamber, before he voted, he was ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 18:35:00

We have to get a bit more information about what he s looking for this had this because he comes here without the ties of these current members who already have worked together and know the changes they want to see from mccarthy. crane is one of those names that could be flipped. this is the tall order for negotiators as they try to figure out how they can get people to vote present, which brings down the threshold even more. steve is right to reflect the new information that we ve got, which is that democratic congressman is out for a previously scheduled surgery, which his office says we locked at the calendar and thought we d be in the clear to schedule a surgery for this day. nobody thought we were going to be on day four of the speakership election. nevertheless, we re all very aware that s where we are. but that explains why the number is shifting. for these negotiators on behalf of kevin mccarthy, the goal is to keep shifting that imagine you can number too. is there any expec ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 18:12:00

Different committees, but no gavels have been promised to anybody. so if you were a betting man, when would you get sworn in? as somebody who has been involved in these negotiations, i know that progress doesn t always happen in a predictable way. i wouldn t want to speculate on a timeline. congressman-elect, thank you so much. we appreciate you taking the time to be with us. steve kornacki and garrett haake are still here. also with us is ali vitali, capitol hill correspondent. tim miller is writer at large for the bullwork and an analyst. simone townsend, host of simone. steve, we ll take a breath, bring us up-to-date and give us the math. they are going to go through the rest of role call. we don t expect any surprises there. the folk who is have yet to vote have been voting either all for jeffries or mccarthy. no more of the defectors left. what is left is paul gosar and ....

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