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Again. i can tell. you look at that and look at all of the transcripts this past week and he has said in his own unique way he is siding with james mattis and he is not going to push for waterboarding. he says it. and, yet, he tosses out the red meat to his supporters which causes problems for theresa may and the rest of the world. as i watch that, what i see is someone keeping the tough guy cred intact from the primary. the gut. listen. these are the bad guys chopping off head and we pour a little water on their face? please, we can do that but i ll defer to general mattis who knows more about these things than i do. i think in the end it gives him ae an out if we don t use enhanced interrogation or waterboarding he can put that off mattis and keep his it allows him to say you say you re for torture. no, no. i said i m going to do everything that is legal and i m ....
I watch the people on television, oh, donald trump is in favor of torture. look. we have people that knocked down the world trade center and all over the world, they go into a club and machine everybody down. and then they we are not allowed to waterboard? it s so it seems so foolish and so naive, but this is what we have to put up with. willie, if you re scoring at home, he tosses out the red meat, waterboarding, good thing, torture, good thing. walks it back. but i m with james mattis. i m with general mattis. not going to do it. later on, he says i m going to do what is legal so he is not going to do it. tosses out red meat, again. they say it works and we should do it. hannity agrees. walks it back. but mattis, quote, i m with him all the way. not going to do it. but he tosses out the red meat ....
Cetera, et cetera. then he cites other experts that tell him it contradicts what james mattis say. i think you re right, joe. one hand red meat to the base and not use torture because he will. reporter: james mattis as his shield. i think we should say what kind of reaction and consequence this approach will have. we have never seen it before. kasie hunt, amid all this, he spoke at the republican conference. how did that go and tell us about it. well, this question of torture, for example, is one that i think very neatly encapsulates challenges for trump right now. they don t understand this is something he is talking about and it s a unique example because normally, you know, republican leaders come up to microphones and they are asked to explain whatever tweet it is that donald trump has offered up ....
With james mattis all the way, right? but he still tosses the red meat out there. as willie said, he gets sort of this street cred with the people who supported him but it causes a hell of a lot of problems for theresa may and other leaders. this is the single biggest problem that theresa may is facing today back in the uk in terms of her visit here is what donald trump has been saying during the course of this week about torture and it is forcing her into a decision saying we would not support the american people so he is forcing a wedge between himself we think. it s concerning, we think. we think. we also have to wonder is he saying some of this in order to shore up james mattis who could not have been happy during the course of this week to apparently had himself contradicted this early on by his principal? it remains just to be careful here. except for the fact every time he brings up james mattis name, he says i m going to follow him and defer to him, et ....
Bill that will reduce our trade deficits and increase american exports and generate revenue from mexico that will pay for the wall if we decide to go that right. stop. if we decide to go that route? yeah. it sounded the way that was written, if we decide to build the wall. if you look at the construction of that sentence, and will pay for the wall if we decide to go that route. i just it s just again, i m just curious about all of the things that are being thrown out and how many of them will end up actually being real. and how many deliberate. is that a deliberate leaving himself room not to build the wall when he is being so adamant he is going to build the wall? those were from prepared remarks and, again, it is just like waterboarding which he brings up and then tells people i will follow james mattis. i will not waterboard. then he will throw out more red ....