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a number of people, as our colleague ryan riley has noted in his reporting, as defendants on january sixth characters have said i was useful idiot. i was a pawn in don trump s larger game. i did not understand what was going on that day or i felt that i was called by the president to come to washington on january 6th and that he was essentially excusing if not directly calling for all the things that went down that day, including the violence. trump himself obviously can t say that, because he is with a dozen former and chief. he s the person on whom these useful idiots were prayed, essentially. so in his case, he can t use the defense. but i want to point out, alica, to you and our viewers, there is a close cousin of that argument the former president might be able to avail himself of. that is the advice of counsel defense. donald trump was scheduled to have to tell judge chutkan and jack smith s office, later this month, whether he ll advance a defense that he was solely ....
Supposition that donald trump will be the republican nominee. but even if you lived in some fantastic, often reality, president biden knows he will be running against trumpism. that is all but guaranteed. so the argument about democracy itself, it holds, regardless of who the candidate would be. it absolutely does. that was a very smart speech. it was a well-timed speech. i thought and impassioned speech, and an effective won by president biden yesterday. and it really led at the stakes and a way that makes what the decision in november, very clear. and you re right, alica, even if it s trump not. let s say it s haley, let s say it s desantis bicep maricle. i don t think it s going to happen, but let s say it. it all of them have already embraced trumpism. all of them have made excuses towards the january 6th crowd. all of them have spoken at different points in the same fetishistic, dictatorial way, although not as extreme. ....
Should be very little that surprises us at this point. we have to hope that truth, at the same time you hold none of this can become normal. we can t look and say this is normal. it s part of the challenge we ve been talking about, which is what happens in iowa. this isn t just a horse, right candidates vying for the same thing. no. this is a way of thinking. this is trumpism on phone display. donald trump is leading in the polls. but if you look at the polls, trumpism is leading. is iowa going to tell us, julián, not just about the state of the gop we know the state of the gop but the state of this country? i think it will tell us how much the country has changed, how much he has normalized that extremism without republican politics. in the eight years since 2016. he s leading, still, in the real clear politics average by about 35 points. and part of the problem, alica, in terms of the normalization, has been usually and a primary, ....
a number of people, as my colleague ryan riley has noted in his reporting, as defendants on jenner s sixth characters have said i was useful idiot. i was a pawn in don trump s larger game. i did not understand what was going on that day or i felt that i was called by the president to come to washington on january 6th and that he was essentially excusing if not directly calling for all the things that went down but the, including the violence. trump himself obviously can t say that, because he is with a dozen former and chief. he s the person on whom these useful idiots were prayed, essentially. so in his case, he can t use the defense. but i want to point out, alica, to you and our viewers, there is a close cousin of that argument the former president might be able to about themself of. that is the advice of counsel defense. donald trump was scheduled to have to tell judge chutkan and jack smith s office, later this month, whether he ll advance a ....
The same time you hold that none of this can become normal. we can t look and say this is normal. it s part of the challenge we ve been talking about, which is what happens in iowa. this isn t normal, this isn t just a horse, right candidates vying for the same thing. no. this is a way of thinking. this is trumpism on phone display. donald trump is leading in the polls. but if you look at the polls, trumpism is leading. is iowa going to tell us, julián, not just about the state of the gop we know the state of the gop but the state of this country? i think it will tell us how much the country has changed, how much he has normalized that extremism within republican politics. in the eight years since 2016. he s leading, still, in the real clear politics average by about 35 points. and part of the problem, alica, in terms of the normalization, has been usually and a primary, your opponents would point out ....