libbed a moment, as a surprise, including by mark meadows when he wrote his memoir about that. we are now seeing evidence that it was not a surprise. it wasn t ad libbed. and there was at least some planning, both involving the white house and newest members of congress, about the desirability of getting the crowd to converge on the capitol building that day. is that important? it s not just logistics or s that important in terms of the overall issue of culpability here? i think it is very important, to the degree that members of congress or the white house or the former president had as a part of their plan to bring that mob into the capitol, this was a way to break into the building, of trying to interrupt, disrupt, the joint session going on inside. and particularly, if the members of the administration that understood that there would be the participation of these violent, racist white
seem to have been an active effort, a planned effort, not a spontaneous surprise, that it wasn t a spontaneous surprise, that the crowd that trump had rallied at the ellipse moved to the u.s. capitol? obviously, we heard trump call for that during his speech. that was portrayed as an ad libbed a moment, as a surprise, including by mark meadows when he wrote his memoir about that. we are now seeing evidence that it was not a surprise. it wasn t ad libbed. and there was at least some planning, both involving the white house and newest members of congress, about the desirability of getting the crowd to converge on the capitol building that day. is that important? it s not just logistics or s that important in terms of the overall issue of culpability here? i think it is very important, to the degree that members of congress or the white house or