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Donald trump jr. gave them the ammo to do that. and you heard the argument from jay sekulow, there was nothing illegal. he didn t answer my question when i asked about was it moral, unethical? was it improper? yes, it was improper. and their argument that anybody would have taken this meeting in politics. no. yes, do we take oppo, opposition research on your opponent? when it s the russian government, you say no and immediately call the fbi. that s the problem. donald trump jr. s amnesia with regard to this meeting. and indignation about russians tipping the scale toward donald trump is discouraging to the american people and i find it insulting as well. congressman we found out there are at least eight people at this meeting, including a russian american lobbyist with ties to russian intelligence. as a member of the house ....
It just doesn t add up. i always want to know how he s going to deal with the senate and the house. he seems to forget he s got to deal with that group of people. i m hoping that he will say things that are unifying. i look at a lot of things that have been said. i ve got to be frank with you, april, mika and joe, i grew up in a household where both my parents were pentecostal ministers. in my household, a lie is a lie is a lie. i m hoping the president will be very honest with the american people. yesterday he met with hbcu president and they asked me for my advice before they went in. i said follow the money. nice executive order. when i ve got african-american kids who cannot get through school with a 3.5 average in their junior year because they don t have money, i want to know where the money is going. is it moral for them to not have ....
Today s torture report asks three main questions, the answers depend on your political leanings. number one, does torture work? number two, is it moral, ever? and number three, should the torture report ever been made public? joining me now former rnc chair michael steele and joan walsh, both are msnbc political anal t analys analysts. i m going to let michael start, i want to hear your positions and then you ll have to defend them. first of all, a good moral question. torturing. a means to an end? does the end, even if it works, justify the means of torture? even if it gets us information. i think it does. if it s the weighing against the loss of greater potential life, potential loss of greater life, more life, the opportunity that brings harm to other people, yeah, you ve got to weigh this in the balance, to make sure ....
Leanings. number one, does torture work? number two, is it moral, ever? and number three, should the torture report ever been made public? joining me now former rnc chair michael steele and joan walsh, both are msnbc political analysts. i m going to let michael start, i want to hear your positions and then you ll have to defend them. first of all, a good moral question. torturing. a means to an end? does the end, even if it works, justify the means of torture? even if it gets us information. i think it does. if it s the weighing against the loss of greater potential life, potential loss of greater life, more life, the opportunity that brings harm to other people, yeah, you ve got to weigh this in the balance, to make sure that, you know, you re not ....
Successful people? is it moral to give our children and grandchildren massive debt? is it moral, half the population that works, to pay nothing at all? dr. carson takes the oppose moral position takes the opposite moral position and says the current taxation system is immoral. god wants a percentage, not a triple percentage because you re rich. he says, look, having skin in the game is moral. that was the message from dr. carson, and i fully agree with it. that s purely on moral grounds. brian: it was so powerful the wall street journal on their op-ed page had the headline ben carson for president. dr. carson tkpwraous argues morality. there is an economic business side as well. if you have a flat tax you re probably going to bring in much more money than if you tax the rich more and more. ....