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declassified. and providing any evidence that he had declassified any of these documents. now as we and others have reported, and as every expert we have spoken to has said, there is a process for declassification. and if you don t believe them, take it from these republican senators today. there is a process for declassifying documents. there is a process that one must go through. okay. so that s pretty clear. what isn t clear or accurate is what the former president claimed in an interview last night with his tv friend sean hannity. if you re the president of the united states, you can declassify just by saying it s declassified. even by thinking about it, because you re sending it to mar-a-lago or to wherever you re sending it. and it doesn t have to be a process. there can be a process, but it doesn t have to be. you re the president. you make that decision. so when you send it, it s declassified. even by thinking about it. those are his words, which raise ....
Asked for, judge raymond dearie who said in effect put up or shut up. and he wants their response in writing and a court filing following a real process. unlike the president, they cannot just think it. here to talk about it david urban who served as campaign strategist to the former president. also norm eisen. norm, you worked on the classification protocol when you served in the white house. what do you say to the former president s claim that just thinking about declassifying it can declassify them? and please verbally answer, not just telepathically. anderson, you ll look high and low in executive order 13526, which still remains the law to find a clause that says just by thinking about it, i can declassify a document. even a president has to submit to the law. that s the core american idea. but the president can decide and decide to declassify something, but then there is a ....
Ripple effect process that there is evidence that he has done such a thing? there has to be, anderson. because if you think about these documents, as someone who himself had the highest security clearance, tssci, when i look at those papers, i don t see documents. i see people, the humans who stand behind them, americans and our allies who gather this intelligence, the american people who are protected by these extremely sensitive secrets, and the danger that people are put in here and abroad when it gets out. that s why we have a process. and for some of these documents, you have to go back to the classifying authority, even if you re the president. that is why we have laws. and there is no place where we need them more than with these extremely sensitive, dangerous documents. david, is the former president diagnose his legal team any favors by continuing to make comments like this? because now with judges telling his lawyers, look, produce the ....
Prosecution. we ll see what happens, because of the possession of these classified documents. anderson, if you or i or david had even a single one of these documents or two or three, we would surely be investigated. and if you look at the history of the laws, very likely be prosecuted for their possession. the president had over 100 of them. and there is no when we were kids, maybe, you watch bewitched with elizabeth montgomery where she would blink her eyes and wiggle her nose and change reality. that doesn t work with classification authorities. david, we heard some top republicans senators in no uncertain terms rejecting the declassification claims. obviously, look, president s supporters probably don t care about this, you know, but does this when his attorneys are not able to back up his claims, ....