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Had happened to their colleagues. the ones, the other miners. they had no idea what happened to them. their first worry was for their colleague. they didn t want something larry: watching an address by president pinera who interviews luis urzua, the last miner to come up. our special guest for the evening has been curtailed by a story he would admit is bigger than him, michael moore, academy-award winning documentary filmmaker who will tomorrow night receive the cov et ceteraed john steinbeck award. that award received by arthur miller, bruce springsteen, joan baez, sean penn. he is impressive, president, is he not? yes. he s got seemed to have a lot of compassion and empathy for the workers when they came out, and he s got a full head of hair. ....
The mining companies have done everything they can do get away with murder and literally it s resulted in murder, and it s forgotten. i wonder, when i brought it up a half hour ago, i wonder how many people listening to the show right now were even thinking, as we re watching this, we didn t have this happy result larry: michael, joy for a little while. we want to experience joy because there isn t a lot of joy. people in the country right now are live from pay collect to pay collect. i live in a state, michigan, where official unemployment rate ace 15%, it s closer to 20%, 25%. the foreclosures i discussed, one out of five people, five homes now, earth in foreclosure or facing for closure in just that one month. larry: i want to ask you can i say this, though? people watching this, the reason why there s a sense of joy over this, is that the american people watching this feel trapped. there s a sense of really being trapped and there s not a lot of ....
You last night when this event started. we didn t know. the first man reassured us. now that all 33 are up, it s an amazing feeling. larry: five rescuers, are we worthing on thir co inin report up has one come up already? reporter: yes, i think it s very important that we don t forget about them. right now, you can see one has come up. when that wheel turns counterclockwise, it s going back down. the capsule, to pick up the second rescue official. we expect in the next 15 minutes the next one will come up. we ex-next in the next hour and 15 minutes all will be up. and then the shaft will be closed for eternity. larry: what was the role of the rescuer who went down? those five did what, gary? reporter: yeah, it was important they go down because we don t know anything about this, and frankly a lot of people don t know much about it even in this industry, rescuing ....
larry: gary, before we let s you get some rest, and we ll ask michael the same thing we cover these things, comment on them, report on them. do you wonder why these men do what they do, gary tuchman? reporter: i ve actually done a story on that before, larry, and why they do what they do is complex, but it comes down to this, mining in many communities and even in the united states, because this is what i know, but mining in many communities is the best-paying job in that community. it pays relatively well. mining is in many depresses areas in the united states where there s not a lot of jobs. but perhaps more importantly, mining is a real generational occupation. many people are third, fourth, fifth generation miners, so it s what they know and it pays well, and that combination is irresistible to many people. larry: and they don t want to break away and travel far from the scene and not be, let s say, ....
Having to do what their father did or does? reporter: well, some certainly do. you know, try to get another job or move away, but it s what people know, and also, i must emphasize this, a lot of pride in it. they know they re helping america, with the energy situation, and their father did it and their grandfather did it and the great-grandfather did it. there s a lot of pride. it pays well. it s generational, and it s what they know. thanks, gary. hang tough. michael mooring i remember john l. lewis, the trouble he had with harry truman, because they could stop america, the mine workers, a time of conflict. back in that era, over a third of all workers were part of a union, and unions had real power and real strength. beginning in 1981, under ronald reagan, when he fires the air traffic controllers, destroyed ....