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Isn t that true, stephanie? is it true because they re just really bad lawyers and they didn t do due diligence? is it true because they asked trump and trump lied to them and they repeated the lie? did they know it was a lie? or did they not know it was a lie? or did they actually have eyes on these documents and wrote a letter to the department of justice that was false? so, again, this is why you do investigations. could the lawyers be on the hook? conceivably yes. do we know that now, not yet. but, matt s really important pointt and i want to put anoth sort of gloss on it, is that we always talked on your show and others about how hard it is to prove intent. it s the hardest thing to prove in these types of cases. not that someone did something but that someone did something intentionally. but when you cover that thing up, when you lie about that thing, when you conceal that thing from the department of justice and the fbi, it tends to ....
The public we have done every possible thing to cross our t s and dot our i s or shouldn t have to? yeah. well, so a lot of sensible arguments over the last five years haven t quieted the nay sayers, stephanie. i m not sure we need to play to that audience. but i take your point. that by bringing in a special master there s a imprim tor of neutrality. don t forget the department of justice has an enormous to get it right. if they get it wrong, if there s actually a document that s covered by attorney/client privilege and there s no exception to it, and they pass it over the transom to the investigative team, they can do harm to the investigation. so whether it s the doj internal filter team looking at it or special master looking at it, everybody has an incentive to do this right. but your point is a good one. it s a really savvy point that there might be for some people ....
Highly classified records were unfoldered, intermixed with other records and otherwise unproperly identified. now, unfoldered, new word for me, but basically these highly classified documents in their folders had been taken out, thrown amongst other pieces of paper. is there any scenario on planet earth where documents like this would just be thrown asunder with other magazine clippings and stories about trump, highly classified documents what would any sort of honest rational be for why that would happen? none. just to be clear, there s no rational for anybody who is aware of the existence of the documents. and that s why the location of them and the amount the long period of time that is laid out by the department of justice in this filing that they and the ....
Them in the same way they charged the defendants from the january 6th. for their riots, their insurrection. the response to lawlessness is not to surrender in the face of it. it s to investigate and prosecute lawlessness. i think the justice department has to be very clear and i think they will be very clear they re not going to back down in the face of those kinds of threats. you know, it s almost easy for us to forget tonight s document and this special i was just a told we have to take break. sorry. this is what breaking news coverage looks like. things get crazy. all of you stay right here. there s a lot more to go through. there s a lot more to cover. stick around. we re special breaking news coverage tonight on msnbc. king coverage tonight on msnbc. longew you can sell your policy - even a term policy - for an immediate cash payment. we thought we had planned carefully for our retirement. but we quickly realized we needed a way to supplement our income. if you have $100,000 o ....
People. and he doesn t get to lie to the fbi and there s no policy that precludes the department of justice from charging him if they can establish all the elements of the crime. andrew, this argument that trump could make about these documents being his or should be returned to him, now that you re seeing them in plain sight, how could how could his team possibly say, now time to send them back to us. they don t belong to him. they belong to us. yeah. so the department addresses that really strongly and in language i don t think you need to be a lawyer to understand. basically the department says the argument that these are papers that belong to him, these are not your documents. so no matter what these documents belong at the ....