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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:41:00

Policy, that policy issue of immigration. it s like the hall pass that you can have to express white rage and white grievance, white racism. and directed at a group of brown people will still remaining in plain society, not being deemed a racist because you re talking about undocumented people. let s talk about the way in which you feel i mean, what do you think of the suggestions that have been made thus far on the part of let s say, iran desantis? i think it was yesterday, announcing his plans to end birthright citizenship for americans quarantine well, people born in america. it s an example of what we re talking about where it masquerades as a policy issue, a policy debate, but the reality is the expression of aren t these people scary, isn t the country changing in ways that you don t like? let s remember, the 14th amendment, which legalizes birthright citizenship was a corrective of the scott decision. this is literally our remedy to the supreme court saying that black pe ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:26:00

6th. but nobody can tell me that if it had been a group of black lives matter protesters yesterday, if there were not they would ve been treated very differently than the mob of thugs that stormed the capitol. we all know that that s true. it is unacceptable. totally unacceptable. according to the senate report, in the lead up to january 6th, the intelligence community focused intensely on black led racial justice protests. while effectively ignoring threats from right-wing domestic terrorists. in the summer of 2020, just a few months before the attack, protests erupted across the country over the killing of george floyd. according to the senate report, during those protests, intelligence leadership was particularly focused on civil unrest in portland. everything relating to it was treated as being urgent. intelligence collectors were pressured to find evidence to ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:15:00

But obviously we have a civil burden much lower. that would involve some novel application of laws that typically would not have been applied in that type of situation. we just have not had that fact pattern. the fact pattern in the mar-a-lago case is exactly what you described when you reported on the former fbi agent that just got sentenced to prison. this happens, i don t want to say all the time, but routinely enough where it is very open and shut, black and white type of case. any case brought against the former president of the united states should be just that. no special counsel or attorney general is going to want to push such a novel case, because the ramifications for losing that case are going to be horrible for the country. obviously, the conviction is horrible for the country, but good for the rule of law. we will see what happens with january 6th, but i expect the ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 04:41:00

Remaining in polite society, not being deemed a racist because you re talking about undocumented people. let s talk about the way in which you feel i mean, what do you think of the suggestions that have been made thus far on the part of let s say, ron desantis? i think it was yesterday, announcing his plans to end birthright citizenship for americans well, people born in america. it s an example of what we re talking about where it masquerades as a policy issue, a policy debate, but the reality is the expression of vibes. aren t these people scary, isn t the country changing in ways that you don t like? let s remember, the 14th amendment, which legalizes birthright citizenship was a corrective to the dred scott decision. this is literally our remedy to the supreme court saying that black people are subhuman. that was our birthright citizenship creation. secondarily, the president ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC Alex Wagner Tonight 20240604 01:37:00

We have a country founded with institutionalized racism, how do you get to a more perfect union when you can begin to see not just the existence of white nationalism, and white rage, white racism, but we can to combat it. how do you unwind that? i think that that is one of the official questions. i write in the book when we referenced it a little bit, so much of the american history has been a tug of war between diametrically opposed forces. forces of white supremacy, and i don t mean that colliculi, the literal foundation of the government being a racialized caste system, where white people are fully human, other people are not. right? the pulling and pushing, and the difficulties is that we tend to overestimate, and white americans choose to overestimate, what they believe that progress has. been other americans, those likely to be victimized by these systems, suggesting that far less progress has been made then their colleagues. in this moment, when we see those massive demographi ....

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