Stephanie ruhle, all here for msnbcs special coverage of these Court Arguments on the disqualification of donald trump. Welcome to our Primetime Recap of the historic proceedings that the United States Supreme Court. I am Rachel Maddow at msnbc home base along with my beloved colleagues, Lawrence Odonnell, and joy reid, and chris hayes, happy to have you all here. No cameras are allowed in federal courtrooms, including the United States Supreme Court, but today, for the arguments about whether china for having an insurrection against the u. S. Government, the justices did allow for the sound of the proceedings, the audio, to be livestreamed here on msnbc, we carried the audio of those Oral Arguments live unfold. That was starting just after 10 am eastern time. But we also know that people have lives, jobs, school, other responsibilities and might make it hard to take two hours out of a thursday to stare at an Audio Speaker for hours trying to figure out of that was gorsuch, or a Leader
circuit didn t have the jurisdiction to act when it did. and now they want the supreme court to step in. notably, this request from trump s team goes directly to justice clarence thomas. but that is actually because he oversees all petitions that come in from the 11th circuit. it is likely here that justice thomas will refer this to the full court to decide this issue. but anderson, we have seen trump appeal to the supreme court several times in the next few years, with little success. it was just earlier this year that the justices allowed the january 6th select committee to gain access to the white house record, notably justice thomas dissented from that. and back in 2020, they ruled that they could not block his financial documents from prosecutors in new york. so this was filed as an emergency order, the justices could potentially rule pretty quickly after the doj response to this early next week on tuesday. what does it mean for the justice departments investigation, t
doj cross hairs. cnn learning tonight that cassidy hutchinson, the aide to former white house chief of staff mark meadows, is now cooperating with the department of justice s investigation into donald trump s efforts to overturn the election. now, this is a major development, because of course, you know, hutchinson was a key witness for the january 6th committee. her testimony there providing a window into trump s state of mind in the days leading up to, and in those crucial moments of january 6th. she was in the room for some of the most damning and important conversations, including one that shows that trump knew that his rally could turn violent, because his supporters were armed. i was in the vicinity of a conversation where i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don t care if they have weapons, let me people in, they can mar to have the capitol from here. knew they were armed and take the mags away, head for the capitol. ty cobb told us, if this
president. telling cnn, quote, this testimony will lead to dime. her bombshell testimony including trump knowing some of his supporters were armed in the hours before the capitol attack. he wanted to join them there despite a warning from former white house counsel pat cipollone that trump and others could face criminal charges if they did. today one of the two republican lawmakers vice chair liz cheney is calling on cipollone to testify. as we heard yesterday, white house council pat cipollone had significant concerns about january 6th activity. it s time for mr. cipollone to testify on the record. any concerns he has about the institutional interests of his prior office are outweighed by the need for his testimony, she writes. meantime, both trump and the secret service are denying hutchinson s second-hand account that trump flew into a rage when he was told not to go to to capitol. she said she was told he lunged at the steering wheel of the limo and at the secret service
is even calling it isn t insurrection, it wasn t. since then, senator johnson has had many opportunities to become better informed. five are on trial right now charged with seditious conspiracy. a texas man sentenced this summit to more than seven years illegally carrying a firearm to the capital. or christopher albert s of maryland, arrested while fleeing the capitol with a loaded pistol. firearm on capitol grounds. or perhaps senator johnson might have turned into january six hearings, and listen to recordings from law enforcement that day talking about people who former president incited. a white male. about six feet tall. brown cowboy boots. he s got blue jeans, and a blue jeans jacket. and underneath the jacket, ar-15. they have glock s, pistols. on his right hip. i have three men walking