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Exposed in the depths of his political depraft at this and corrupt and criminal acts has been laid bare. Not by radical leftists, or any of us in the media but by his inner most circle and the really, really committed ones as that. The Trump Officials who stayed on until the bitter last days of a bitter presidency tell us the riveting story of not one, not two but three Criminal Conspiracies that trump stands accused of by the United States government, in essence against the United States government. By the numbers jack smith has charged three Criminal Conspiracies, four criminal counts, named six Unindicted Coconspirators and shined the light on one who was willing to overturn his election defeat. The indictment brought by jack smith against donald trump makes the coup plot he directed Crystal Clear for the world to see. Here is how the Justice Department explains the first criminal count as the conspiracy to defraud the u. S. Quote, the purpose of the conspiracy was to overturn the l

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:29:00

Like if i pull out a gun and shoot you, i can t defend myself by saying i don t think bullets kill people. when i shot you i didn t think they killed you at the time. at some point all of these defenses that go to state of mind have to be tempered with a dose of reality. when your own attorney general is telling you something. when your own top white house counsel is telling you something. when the other top officials at the justice department is telling you something, when state officials are telling you something, when 62 courts are telling you something, if at that point you say, well, i didn t believe any of them, that isn t a mens rea defense. well, there s also evidence to the contrary, that he didn t believe the crazy people. this indictment makes clear that he thought sidney powell was crazy, which cuts both ways. i want to read this. we ve talked about it a lot on this show. it shows up in the indictment. trump tells chairman of joint chiefs that a national security would be

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:28:00

And slates of fake electors? donald trump has two defenses that he s trying to trod out. one is, there was no bad criminal act. all i did was speech. and as you rightly point out, boy, the indictment just shows his hands were thick in it, not just speech but active involvement in orchestrating all of these different plots, whether it s fake electors, whether it s disrupting the count on january 6th. so many different things. so that then leads trump to pivot to a different defense which is, i didn t have the criminal intent, the bad mens rea, i legitimately thought i won. the clips you showed are devastating proof trump knew and had to know something else. now i suppose he still has a defense is everyone is saying that but i believed something else. that is not a defense. as a criminal defendant, you don t just get to invent your own reality and say, well, i lacked the criminal intent because of it.

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