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Isis has come from mere obscurity to we talked about an msnbc contributor joining us to help us understand the real extent of isis s threat. we can both acknowledge that ning who s been touched by the horror that has been touched by this isis organization. for them, size, money, any of that can be replaced. what do we flow about the size of isis for starters? it remains a big question mark, but it is much larger and a bigger threat a given what we have just said, as you just said, actions in egypt, and ....
He is now in his mid-20s. and he calls president obama, quote, the black chief of the criminal gang in the white house. he praises the boston marathon bombers and the ft. hood shooter, nadal hassan, and like isis has done so frequently, he calls for lone wolf attacks in the west, and he said take the battle to washington, london, paris and tel aviv and take it to all the american jewish and western interests in the world. analyst say this message is a crucial signal right now that al qaeda is grooming bin laden s son, a son he is believed to have been close to to take over a leadership role in the organization. he says al qaeda needs younger leaders to compete with isis and baghdadi. ....
To dip down to a guy that was born sir kau 1991, and that s the best you can do to compete with isis, and this is a good day for people like me. the b team, and some people thought isis was the b team, and now look. and he has a big name, and what role might he play within the organization. they are trying to compete tooth and nail for an isis jihadi war. so being able to bring in a fresh face, somebody that has the last name and able to galvanize the troops to try and attract forces, not just in syria or iraq where they lost their ground, but can they turn it around and attract those forces and that s why they are targeting the specific areas, whether it s washington, london ....
Time, u.s. assets have gotten better on the ground, more presence in the air, seemingly better intelligence on the ground based on some of the strikes we ve seen since then. regardless, he s been a target since the start of this campaign. the fact that he was able to do those movements, if they turn out to be true, this based on the testimony of the prisoners also held hostage, sex slaves, and the wife of abu sayyaf. still significant that he was able to, looks like, to make these movements. from the sources you ve been speaking with, how much credence are u.s. officials putting into this testimony from these two hostage girls? they re putting a fair amount of credence. of course they re matching that to other sources. one of those other sources is the wife of abu sayyaf. she was not just a bystander in the u.s. view. it s the view of u.s. government, u.s. intelligence, u.s. military, that she had a senior role in isis organization as well. they are treating what she says about the ....
Quite a sensitive matter. let s be clear. we still only really know what the administration has been telling us that this man is a top commander in the isis organization was in syria until he was killed. was in charge of oil and gas financing. had taken on an increasing role in isis operations military planning and perhaps most sensitive they believe he and his wife who was captured have or had information about american and western hostages when they were held by isis inside syria. so the bottom line u.s. intelligence still going through all of those computers, all of those cell phones all of that intelligence data that they collected in this raid to see what they can find out about this guy. the name at the end tells us perhaps, perhaps, he is of ....