To answer that question, is the Energy Secretary Claire Coutinho and for labour, shadow justice secretary Shabana Mahmood. Hello to you both over there. Theyll both hear how the boss of the governments climate watchdog, chris stark, thinks theyre all in fear. Its London Marathon day so were on bbc two but you might recognise some of the runners how come laura. Just getting ready for the marathon. It will be quite a tough one, maybe not quite some as tough one, maybe not quite some as tough as all the questions you ask way. And with me at the desk, eco warrior and broadcaster Chris Packham layla moran, liberal Democrat Foreign Affairs spokesperson, and businessman lukejohnson former chair of Pizza Express and channel 4, now chairman of gails the bakery chain. Lets start with whats in the news. On our theme today, the Sunday People Sastust stop oil are planning to wreck Holiday Plans by storming airports this summer. The observers splashes with labour shifting to target pensioners trying
At how much it costs to get a Heat Pump or how much it costs the Insulator House or for a new bowling that might be more efficient but at the moment they are thinking i am finding it hard to pay my bills as things stand, a lot of members of the publicjust think things stand, a lot of members of the public just think this things stand, a lot of members of the publicjust think this is not something that is affordable right now and what would you say to that . It is entirely reasonable. The Danger Isnt thinking about some sort of magical solution, there isnt, if you cant afford your Gas Bill you are hardly likely to buy a Heat Pump. That is fair. I think two things on this. Firstly it is a Policy Choice about how we handle this and it is for the government to decide that it the point here is that we have time. It is a transition and it does not require us to ask people to do things that are impossible at the moment. We need a plan that looks across ten, 15, 20 years and plays it for the c