conversations with members of congress and other white house officials who said that the white house needs to put out a statement, say something on january 6th to have these people stand down. and so they re trying to understand what meadows saw that day, what the president, the former president was thinking, what he was doing, and how instrument cal meadows was in the events leading up to january 6th. the report, the 51-page report indicates he was instrumental, and like you mentioned, we re only getting one of the side story because measuring meadows said he s not going to cooperate. i m interested when he was the campaign official and chief of staff. he s in the middle of so many of the decisions. talk to me a little bit about what we do know from meadows which is the documents he s handed over. they re referenced repeatedly in