The next step they will fire or reprimand us or they will make this pay for performance and we will be in deep do-do so we have to change this. the case to atlanta, they are trying to watch that but how do you avoid that here? guest: well, the first step is to say how can we support the teachers and help them improve, better professional development and how can the principals be more effective in terms of support? a big area of focus in delaware we have in more than 100 schools, we have different initiatives to make the principals themselves more effective in terms of instructional. neil: what do you do, governor, when someone proves incapable of getting a good number? guest: if it shows consistently over a period, we now have a new regulation in delaware, a teacher cannot get a rating of effective if the students do not show achievement. neil: and then what happens to that teacher? ....