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justify what they were saying, these fraud claims. the committee s not giving them a public stage to do that because they think most debunk and they want the actual information people have about how this effort came together behind the scenes. i think they re willing to let that bluster go, and people come in and answer serious questions. bluster actually, fantastic for testimony. good to see you. thank you for joining us. kyle cheney legal affairs reporter for politico. i bring in olivia troy, with mike pence, former, on matter of counterterrorism. good morning. thank you for being with us. you know this but a lot of republicans maybe don t realize, maybe coming to the realization, this is an inflexes point for republicans, right? either got to make a decision we re not republicans anymore or really are republicans and you are not our matter, donald trump, and the lunatics who did that rally in florence, arizona,

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