and i thank you. good to be back with you on this second hour of msnbc reports with jose diaz-balart. it is 1:00 eastern, 10:00 a.m. pacific. i m in today for chris jansing. what happens today in a d.c. courthouse could be one of the most important days yet for the former president. donald trump s lawyer facing off against jack smith s special counsel team about the durability of trump s presidential immunity argument. it is now in the hands of three judges, but could this case as trump s lawyer put it open pandora s box? a president has to have immunity. and the other thing is i did nothing wrong. and the two top figures in this case, special counsel jack smith and judge tanya chutkan have now both been victims of swatting. what does that mean for the safety of public officials as we head into a busy 2024? plus, the pentagon s investigation into secretary of to hide his hospitalization from even the white house as more lawmakers on capitol hill call for his resignation.
European union. What does President Trump ask sondland the day after this call . What does the president want to know . Did he ask about ukraines efforts to battle corruption . Of course not. Did he ask how the war with russia was going . Not a chance. On the phone his voice loud enough for others to hear, President Trump asked sondland, so hes going to do the investigation . And the answer was clear, sondland assured trump that the ukrainian president was going to do it. And that he would do anything you asked him to. If that wasnt telling enough, my colleagues, in a conversation that followed, an american Diplomat Dining with sondland asked if it was true that President Trump didnt give a blank about ukraine . Sondland agreed saying president cared only about big stuff. The diplomat noted that there was big stuff in ukraine like a war with russia. And sondland replied that the president cared only about big stuff that benefits him personally like the Biden Investigation that mr. Giul
What does the president want to know . Did he ask about ukraines efforts to battle corruption . Of course not. Did he ask how the war with russia was going . Not a chance. On the phone, his voice loud enough, President Trump asked sondland, is hes going to do the investigation . The answer was clear. He ensured trump that the ukrainian president was going to do it and that he would do anything you asked him to. If that wasnt telling enough, my colleagues, in a conversation that followed, an american Diplomat Dining with sondland asked if it was true that President Trump didnt give a blank about ukraine, sondland agreed, saying the president cared only about big stuff. The diplomat noted that there
was big stuff in ukraine, like a war with russia. Sondland replied that the president cared only about big stuff that benefits him personally. Like the Biden Investigation that mr. Giuliani was pushing. In that short conversation, we learned everything we need to know about the 45th president
Uncovering a lot, but they don t have the powers of the department of justice. and then if we go back to impeachment, obviously senate leaders said this wasn t the place and the time to pursue and investigate donald trump. at the moment, he was a sitting president. he had not biden had not yet been inaugurated. it is a stretch to say congress impeachment powers are the same as the department of justice s investigative and prosecution powers. and, catherine, you were talking about the dates, march 4th seemingly a difficult one. how do you see the process going forward because there is the three judges, and then going up the ladder. how do you see it going forward? i think the district the d.c. circuit court of appeals are going to expedite their decision. they know what the calendar looks like. if it is donald trump loses as
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