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formerly president and would be the largest story in the political universe if it were about anyone else who has fewer legal problems. that is my factual introduction to the ongoing civil defamation and sexual assault/rape trial for donald trump. e. jean carroll alleges donald trump raped her in the 1990s. today is the sixth day of the trial and we are learning a lot as we are right in the heart of it. the jury also heard in a way from trump himself, but not live. instead, this jury, which is assessing these very serious allegations, heard from trump in a deposition that was taped in okay. now, there s no video of this new deposition available. we do know broadly what it looks like. it s a contrast to past depositions that trump faced. we also can tell you reporting today in what is a small portion of a 45-minute deposition was reported as evidence. this is something off the top i want to explain why it matters before i go any further. donald trump as a legal and politi ....
Has been drawn, particularly on the defamation. if you go out fox news right thousand and actively do the things they had to pay the largest penalty for ever, you re going hear about it. that s just any workplace. but all this other stuff, which can still be basically kind of arguably asserted as somebody s opinion and not a direct defamatory actionable claim, where a group like dominion could take you to court and sue all the other hate, some of that s still kicking around. take the other night. a host saying he knows how to identify, quote, illegal immigrants by looking at them. i saw on the way into work an illegal immigration family digging through the trash looking for recyclables. how did you know they were illegal? you can tell. jesse. i can tell. i m a city guy. and you don t want me to get into it, but i can tell. do you want to get into it? ....
It s okay when they do it. not okay when others do it. that would seem to legally uncut the last leg of defense the judge would allow, which was newsworthy stuff. there s a larger legal problem that their newsworthy defense was a vladimir putin waiting before their eyes. in fact, sorry, the judge did say they couldn t even make that defense. i m sorry, which defense? they could not claim newsworthiness as a they lost that as part of their defense in the lead up to the trial. right, what they had left wuss we re doing this, i should say, as news, and it was the news process we are trying to basically do this as a good faith mistake is the best way you could put it, that it wasn t malicious defamation, and a jury s going to look at all this evidence of saying by the way, with you don t know from the redacting which messages would go, with you didn t get the trial but the jury would be presented with a lot of material that would make you say, i think this was ....
Court system, and being asked about something doesn t mean you did it, doesn t mean you don t have rights in a civil or criminal proceeding. but he lost, and that is not only the way he lost in sitting for that deposition, but this week we can report something we couldn t have told you last week, which is he not only had to sit through it, but material pursuant was presented to the jury. that is an important context to what we re discussing in the news tonight. here are the specifics. donald trump in this back and forth deposition denied this allegation. he said it was ridiculous, disgusting, it s a story that just did not happen. he also asserted had it happened it would have been reported in minutes because the alleged incident took part at the bergdorf department store which was very busy. his lawyers formally told this court they ll not be presenting ....
Saying you never did that. frankly, you hear these things are said, and i was embarrassed by it, but i have tremendous respect for women, and women have respect for me, and i will tell you, no i have not. right, i m not sure what else he could have said in that moment. i also think this tape is baked into people s perceptions of donald trump at this point, right? it s hard to imagine there s a juror who does not know about this piece of news. and so what really matters is how they connect it to the evidence in this case, right? can i push you on that? sure. legally, jurors are not supposed to bring in outside stuff, so i suppose one difference, which you and i know as people who follow cases is, yes, everybody knows if they have been around america in this recent period, but the judge has instructed them that they may validly when they sit and discuss this use that as potential evidence of what he does if they perceive it as him ....