illinoisñ■ has hade■ two governs incarcerated one democrat, one republican who cares what party tv)■ is something people have to take seriously again if we are going to be a nation of laws we have eyes theree■ on the tru plane. my expert guests are with us. if you are joining us, donald trump has been indicted in new york the grand jury has voted the indictment is under seal that means it exists details are note1 yet public that is the standard process ■i. that is not specific to this type of defendant.f■ he s a different type of defendant. moments ago we have a statement from donald trump and in part of our fairness in reporting i want to read part of it joyce, i d love for you topgt■ e hearing from theç■ defendant,e1 york versus donald trump
trying to strengthen the case they re trying to x■bring. we ve heard a lot about the narrow fact pattern. thenl■ you haveie■ the separater taste. he said this isñr■but oneqchapt andxd■d■i ma5■ curious if you t with these lingsx■ it s larger than a hush money case we don t know if it isxd■dmu■ concrete way this is a larger financial fraud, whether that s going to be doing investigation onet(■ó■way is that in you re tg to flip allen weisselberg, he wa she is in jail and if you can bring5a■ additional charges,ç■ s
could be one felony. but over the course of this, emily, we have been following something that has had a very binary quality every time he skates, it sort of leaves this echo of well, he s going to get away, and that becomes in some ways, josh mentioned fables, comes up a fable of invincibility that seems to have been pierced today. right, and we heard a lot about trump being nervous about being arrested and fingerprinted. there is a certain indignity of being part of the criminal process in this way. if we are in the land of the hush money charges, which we talked about and i m speculating that there seems to be the most basis that this is what is happening here there is going to be a confidence about whether they are too small, not enough to make it worth it to indict a former president, or whether once you know the facts, then
he was about to get indicted and something changed, or maybe trump scared him off or something like that. you know, that never seemed like that was going to be true. but i think this is a good reminder that there are things going on here that we just don t know, and a lot of even good journalists get wrong what has happened i think you mentioned with weissmann earlier, you know, there have been a number of witnesses who have been brought before the grand jury over the last couple of weeks that we didn t know about. there are these new reports just over the last couple of days that the manhattan d.a. s office has been sort of applying new pressure to alan weisselberg so it may be that this is just, you know, a trump version of the
fears, that he would be called out for who an> for those joining us, michael cohen, who has been called a key or star witness in this case is on the line. we llñi■hear about 6 p.m. easte. this is the beat with ari m melber donald trump has been indicted under seal by the new york grand jury his lawyers have been notified of this. michael, we re just on this. if you can still hear me, thexd■ other question i have before we let you go is what do you think now that this indictment exists under seal, whatr