shopify.com, it s live anyone you can watch it, you can see what is happening in your favorite brands in hyper realtime. thank you so much. we will turn to georgia and the three men convicted of killing ahmaud arbery who are preparing for the federal hate crimes trial in february. they are facing charges of interfering with arbery s right to use the public street because of his race. and also one count of attempted kidnapping. the mcmichaels were also charged with carrying and brandishing a firearm, joining me now, nbc s cal perry who remains in brunswick georgia, barbara mcquade, a professor at the university of michigan law school and msnbc legal analyst. good to see both of you. barbara, prosecutors called the attack against arbery a modern day lynching. the federal indictment says the three men intimidated arbery because of his race. what are you going to be