during that siege? were you worried about his safety? no, i heard he was well protected. i heard he was in very good shape. but the chants, that was terrible on the he could have well, the people were very angry. they re saying hang mike pence. it is common sense, john. it is common sense that you re supposed to protect how can you if you know a vote is fraudulent, right, how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to congress? wow. former president trump defending the january 6th rioters who were hunting down then vice president pence. jonathan carl interviewed trump for his new book, which is chalk full of new reporting on the lengths the former president and his allies went, trying to overturn his 2020 election loss. among that new reporting is then white house chief of staff mark