brian: one of the biggest surprises for me after talking to these people on this show in particular all these years since 9/11 has been the fact that you are not only stopping al qaeda, located training and afghanistan and pakistan. but the islamic population inside western society. but not the parents. the kids. so they see the west. they see the schooling, and they say i would rather be a radical terrorist than be a member of western society. that has caught me by surprise and i imagine it has most of europe flat footed. and that s a huge difficulty. the greatest ally we have in that is the muslim community. because they know these people. they are coming out of muslim community and most decent muslims are horrified by this. the tribal and honor culture does not want it reported a lot of times because it brings shame on the community. one thing that was said previously the mayor of london is i deek khan said