and this other kid zachary chesser. do you expect to see more and more of these types of domestic terror plans that are sort of being formulated by these types of people? the way we project is the fact that something big has changed for these individuals not to be recruited? no. the ideology is still expanding within the united states. we can see clearly on internet. every couple of months we have one or two arrests, which is much bigger than what we had between 2001 and 2008. unfortunately, the projection is that we are going to see more of those homegrown american born, american raised jihadists. rick: that makes things so much more difficult for our homeland security officials, folks in this country who are charged with carrying out trying to keep americans safe. if all of these terrorists now can suddenly start looking like a zachary chesser how do