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But yet, this is reiterating carissima sport. But hercules jumped out well, dworkin is hercules jumped out at us because it was the closest thing you get to like this is hercules is not a robot, but it shares a lot of the same features that we could imagine of the robot. So that was one of the reasons why dworkin found his place therefore sure. In terms of, just one more point since carissima brought it up about cast some sting. For us what we hope with part of an interesting contribution with this paper was that people who are commenting in the field and some sting as a good example of that have been so focused on the question of functional capacity. And the debate so far is always a question of will we ever get there, like at the end of yesterdays panel the question was, you know, how far or close are we to those kind of things that is a useful question to think about whether personhood is ever going to be on the table. But what we wanted to do in this paper was not sort of say that ....