without a coat. it was nine degrees out. it s just like the movies. that guys wearing the big suit. he walks up to me. they re examining it. the cops decided to x-ray mats torso right there and a lot. using a portable extreme issue. they took one and it to create that image. we saw multiple fires running through the tape and around that organic material. at that time, it couldn t determine if it was actual c4 or type of explosive. or if it s a type of clay to simulate a hoax device. they re looking at it, coming up with a plan, what they re going to do. finally, because as, you know, we re gonna take this off of you. so, i went down with a couple of couple of cutting tools. had him basically from the. lifted his shirt up. slowly started cutting the tape of this back. as if that had not already going through and up the state,
there in the law. using a portable x-ray machine, it took just one minute to create an image. we saw multiple wires running through the tape and around that organic with [inaudible] at this point we determine [inaudible] it was a hoax device. they re coming up with a plan. what they re going to do. finally, the guy [inaudible] so, i wrote went down with a couple cutting tools. had him remain on his knees facing away from me. lifted his shirt up and slowly started cutting the tape up his back. as if matt had already gone through enough this day, another sticky problem came. up he was extremely here. this was gorilla tape. and it was wrapped around his entire torso. so, while removing it, we were causing quite a bit of pain because it was removing all of that here from his torso. we finally get the bomb off
i m going to tell you, as someone who served in the business, you can look at dozens of people at once. you cannot look at thousands or tens of thousands. when you say they knew this person or they re looking at them, i want to know how up on the radar they are because you can t look at thousands or tens of thousands of people at once. you can t. the fact he was found with a hoax explosive device is that indicative of going to you in the planning? yes, it is. look, one person operated individually. so he was not part of a conspiracy. he was not part as far as we can tell so far, part of a broader plan. what does it tell you if someone goes into a circumstance like this with a knife ichb stead of a gun. you can t maximize casualties which is what terrorists want to do with a gun. and you have a hoax device instead of a real device. it tells me potentially, and we see this in many circumstances, that the individual may have
him to the ground. police quickly moving in. the. one witness said khan appeared to have two knives, one of them taped to his hand. no one knew at the time that the bomb vest he was wearing was a fake. in the aftermath, london s lord mayor praising the people who took action. members of the public didn t realize at the time that was a hoax device and they really are the best of us. another example of the bravery and heroism of ordinary london has running towards danger, risking their own personal safety to try to save others. and i want to say thank you to them on behalf of all londoners but also because it shows the best of us. cnn s nick paton walsh recounts for us the terrifying moments as londoners were, again, confronted by terrorism.