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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi 20191209 20:48:00

Grounds for presidential impeachment. that talks about treason and bribery be admitted for the record. what? be made part of our record. majority. without objection. or thanks. mr. deutsch. thank you. getting back to the d facts surrounding the tpresident s abuse of power using the white house u meeting as leverage for helping his political campaign. mr.s goldman, president trump offered ukrainian president zelensky a meeting in the white house.le but first, he wanted investigations into the bidens and a conspiracy theory about meddling in the 2016 election. you testified that the committees found evidence that president trump f worked to exchange official actions for personal benefit. and i want to talk about that.ic on may 23rd, 2019, a delegation ofio officials returned from zelensky s inauguration and they briefed the president.d fr in that briefing, president trumpen directed government officials to work with his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani. isn t that correct? ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi 20191209 20:49:00

yes. and trump s handpicked ukraine operator, gordon sondland, testified that they faced a choice. either work with giuliani or abandon the goali of a white house meeting. what choice did they make, mr. goldman? they decided to work with mr. giuliani. right. and six days later, on may 29th, president trump sent the new ukrainian president a letter that said america stood with ukraine. andwi invited president zelensk to visit the white house. isn t that correct? yes. that was the second time that he invited him s to the white hous so at this point, the ukrainian president expected thatpo meeting. correct. but then they learn that they ve got to do something more for the president. sondland testified that there was a prerequisite of investigations. isn t that right? yes. and nsc staffer lieutenant colonel vindman testified that sondland told the ukrainians in a july 10th meeting that investigation of the bidens was ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi 20191209 20:27:00

you re investigating the wrong guy, mr. chairman.it mr. cohen. thank you, sir. mr. goldman, i d like to bring us back to the next president to this president, not the next president. and stay focused on the july 25 call. the president s abuse of office for his benefit, no one else s. now, as my colleague ms. jackson lee confirmed, the president s request for these investigations was not an objective of u.s. foreign policy, correct? that s right. is there any evidence the national security council wanted an investigation into the bidens, burisma, or any alleged ukrainian interference in 2016? no. any evidence about the state department wanting them? no. how about the dod? the dod want those investigations? no evidence of that. did any witness tell you that they wanted ukraine to investigate the bidens of the 2016 election? no. we certainly know now that the ukrainians did not want it either. in fact, they d made it very clr they did not want to be an instrume ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi 20191209 20:20:00

andbe anything ever found in those investigations that might have occurred? i m sorry? anything ever found of those investigations that may have occurred with respect to the former vice w president? every single witness said there s no factual basis for either of the investigations. so mr. trump did not use official talking points. correct. and there were fact witnesses who confirmed . that? that s right. when you hear those words, do you hear the president requesting a thoughtful and well-calibrated anti-corruption program, consistent with u.s. policy? so, mr. goldman we were hoping we recommended the president very clearly support what president zelensky had run on his own election and what his servant of the people party had run on in its election where it received a majority mandate. but that didn tma come up in the call, did it? no, sir. so mr. goldman, did the evidence prove mr. trump utilized his position of public trust in order to accomplish these ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Ali Velshi 20191209 20:28:00

So the only person who was a beneficiary from that investigation is president trump. and that s why everyone on the july 25 call knew it was wrong. they knew it was wrong. the investigative committee heard testimony from three witnesses whoim participated in that call. is that correct?th yes. well, listened to that call. right. mr. goldman, even in realtime, the witnesses whon listened on that call, testified they were concerned by the escall. is that correct? yes. and, in fact, both lieutenant colonel vindman and mr. morrison immediately reported the call to legal counsel, is that right? that s right. and why did they r do so? they did it for separate reasons. lieutenant colonel vindman was concerned about the substance vf the call. that it was improper. mr. morrison was concerned about the potential political ramifications if the call was released because of the substance of the call and the political naturee of the call. and they reported the call that they actually ....

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