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To get me to kill that woman. did he really? because he do you want the truth? yeah, i want the truth. you got that recorder on? yeah. i ve got to have the truth. yeah, you re [bleep] right that son of a bitch tried to get me to kill that woman. reporter: now out of jail, charlie told us that sometimes john transferred money between bank accounts and sometimes john met charlie and billie and handed over packages of cash at a hamburger joint or gas station, and john was always pressing them to get the hit done. i mean, he was, hey, do you think you can get it done now? what s the chances? where are you all at? billie would tell him, you know, we re about an hour away. we ll call you when we get close. okay. well, call me when you got confirmation. i want this thing done. and i was like, damn, what did this lady do? reporter: as long as john was willing to pay, charlie says billie and his family were willing to talk about killing nancy. and every time the hit didn t h
Learned that nearly a dozen people from east texas knew about the plot to kill nancy. charlie louderman was one of them. so have you heard about the shooting in carrollton? yeah, i heard about it. everybody else heard about it, and do you know who s involved with it? yeah. who s that? billie earl johnson and mr. john. mr. john. so you know mr. john? yeah, i know mr. john. reporter: charlie louderman was one of the few who was not related by blood or marriage to billie earl johnson. billie earl johnson. he s one mad son of a bitch. reporter: charlie, who started out as a bodyguard for billie earl, says billie and mr. john tried to get him to shoot nancy howard. this [bleep] man, he tried
Done too much dope. the neighbors were home. he [bleep] him just as far as he could take it. and john would buy it hook, line and sinker every time. reporter: mr. john s big money scheme to kill nancy howard was an economic bonanza for east texas. according to charlie, billie earl couldn t seem to spend that money fast enough. motorcycles, vehicles for his children, all three of them, a car for his mother, three or four four-wheelers, something for the grandkids. a ski boat. he bought me a riding mower, a four-wheeler, numerous assault weapons. just anything he wanted. reporter: and so for more than two years the murder plot bankrolled by john killed nothing but time. they didn t follow through with it because they wanted more money. reporter: they have been called the hee-haw gang. but they were very valuable to you, all of these characters. it would have been a tough case if we only had one or two of them as witnesses. but when we have this number of people involved, some
i was married to a man named frank howard. for the majority of our marriage, i was married to frank howard. but when john walked in the door, he started taking over. frank was a man who was loving and kind. he had integrity. john? john was about himself. reporter: prosecutors laid out their theory. john, aka frank howard, had hired a hit man to kill his wife, but for more than two years, he d ended up throwing money at one potential killer after another to get the job done. this group of characters, some people have even called them the hee-haw gang. yes. reporter: very questionable characters absolutely. reporter: with long rap