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I m asking this dead seriously. what s it going to be in the history books for all-time? this is the report that s going to say why trump faced impeachment, right? this report will stand the test of time, chris. it s just a question will my republican colleagues stand the test of courage. let me ask you about this rudy giuliani role, the fact that giuliani was on the phone with the omb, that controls the funds to ukraine, what does that tell you? rudy giuliani is trump s lawyer. so we proved in our case donald trump is rudy and rudy is donald trump. and they are inp inseparable, but lawyers act on behalf of their clients and almost everyone that knew of this relationship said rudy was asking as trump s guy. and donald trump told them talk to rudy, he s my guy. ....
Great guy, mayor, he s my guy, give him a call, talk to rudy. talk to rudy. donald trump brought up rudy on that call multiple times because jami was his guy unaring his scheme. and that scheme started well before the call. we know that now. if you go back and look through months before the call, the shadow foreign policy is all right there in front of us. rudy giuliani is running point to pull off the scheme and he s got to get rid of the person in his way who is the civil servant marie yovanovitch. she takes her job seriously as ambassador to ukraine. rudy and his associates, what do they got to do? they ve got to get rid of her. they start a crazy campaign against her. enlist allies to talk about how bad she is. for instance, here s the president s son who color me crazy is not super into which members are posted to which ....
Will, to keep the word to himself what he s been told to do. therefore he ll do terrible requests of the ukrainian government. i want this, i want that keep pushing, pushing, push s. the way the president set that up in his conversation with president zelinsky was to say this guy is mayor of new york, he s a great lawyer. in other words investing him with this incredible authority to do all kinds of dirty work. i know what s going on here and you did, too. he s telling him deal with this guy, he s going to be a little rough, but he s my guy. that s frequently the way it happens in cases of corruption, you have some sort of intermediary and that is shield for the higher level person. they can say i didn t know what was going on, they can speak in code. it s a way to distance yourself from the dirty work that s being done. what the hell was the name ....
Pragmatic decision. is it electability. i think there s electability at the top. it s being met with we like what he s doing, we like what he s say, we like what we see. we like the humanity. we re exhausted. i think there s that element. we re just exhausted and we want somebody who we think can take him on. is he their favorite, favorite candidate? some of them say yes, but others say he s my guy. it s interesting, too, noah, but joe biden s first presidential campaign, it was the question of plagiarism, he delivered a closing statement that ended up being lifted from a british politician. he had inflated his academic resume. you had this fact check from the washington post this week that brought back some memories of that, i think. i wonder in the atmosphere of 2019, versus the add moss fear ....
We like the humanity, and we re exhausted. i think there s that, we re just exhausted and we want to see somebody who we think can take him on. you know, is he their favorite, favorite, favorite, candidate, syst some of them say yes. others say he s my guy. it s interesting is, noah, i don t want to draw a direct comparison, the first campaign in 1977, a question of plagiarism. it turned out he had been on the campaign trail inflating his academic resume. you had this fact check from the washington post this week that brought back some members of that, i think. i wonder in the atmosphere of 2019, in the donald trump atmosphere versus the atmosphere of 87 or 97, anytime before now, does it play differently? invariably, unfortunately for my conservative friends and i tend to agree with them, we should look at these as isolated events which are very disturbing, potentially damming ....