the night that i win the emmy. being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. it s hard work and it s controversial. without information, there is no freedom. and it s journalists who provide that information. window rolls down and this guy says, hey, he goes to 11:00. [laughter]. rick hertzberg, welcome. great to be here. nice to see you again, and for no particular reason except just to talk politics, which i love to do. the oh, i m ready for that. and especially with you. so let s start with the president. let s start high up on the chain here. you wrote a book after the 2008 campaign. it was a collection of essays, in fact, published a book called obamanos: the birth of a new political era. has it turned out in the intervening years as you expected it would given your thoughts about him back then? well not really, no. but of course it s traditional among political pundits to say, well there s nothing really surprising about anything that s ever
them are just going to say, i don t believe that. you know, maria, there s a certain paradox about this. there are about, to the best of our calculation, about 27 million people in the world in slavery. and you re right, that s double the number that were taken out of africa in the entire 350 years of the transatlantic slave trade. but the paradox is that 27 million in today s global population is the tiniest, the smallest fraction, of the global population to ever be in slavery. so it s large raw number, but it s actually a very tiny fraction of the global population. hinojosa: but does it still mean that there are more now? it s pretty easy to say, because we re at 27 million, that we have possibly more now than we ve ever had in history. hinojosa: and you say that slaves now are cheaper? that s all about this global population growth. because as the population went from two billion up to almost seven billion today, just in the last 50 years, it s glutted the ma
the night that i win the emmy. being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. it s hard work and it s controversial. without information, there is no freedom. and it s journalists who provide that information. window rolls down and this guy says, hey, he goes to 11:00. [laughter]. rick hertzberg, welcome. great to be here. nice to see you again, and for no particular reason except just to talk politics, which i love to do. the oh, i m ready for that. and especially with you. so let s start with the president. let s start high up on the chain here. you wrote a book after the 2008 campaign. it was a collection of essays, in fact, published a book called obamanos: the birth of a new political era. has it turned out in the intervening years as you expected it would given your thoughts about him back then? well not really, no. but of course it s traditional among political pundits to say, well there s nothing really surprising about anything that s ever
it s great to have you here. thank you. hinojosa: you decided to write this book, but you didn t have to write this book. no. hinojosa: you could have just put this chapter away. what was it that made you say, you know what? i have to tell my story about being the first black woman prisoner of war ? well, there was so much out there, floating around, misconceptions about the experience and what happened to me. i just really wanted to set the record straight from my point of view. since the book has come out, i ve come to the realization that no matter what i say, there s going to be people who believe what they want to believe. but i know that i have put the truth out there. hinojosa: you are basically raised in an army family. you re an immigrant from panama. yes. hinojosa: your dad joins the army, and he goes and he serves in the first gulf war. yes, he did. hinojosa: and at that point you re a kid, and i remember in your book you wrote that what it was
the night that i win the emmy. being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. it s hard work and it s controversial. without information, there is no freedom. and it s journalists who provide that information. window rolls down and this guy says, hey, he goes to 11:00. [laughter]. rick hertzberg, welcome. great to be here. nice to see you again, and for no particular reason except just to talk politics, which i love to do. the oh, i m ready for that. and especially with you. so let s start with the president. let s start high up on the chain here. you wrote a book after the 2008 campaign. it was a collection of essays, in fact, published a book called obamanos: the birth of a new political era. has it turned out in the intervening years as you expected it would given your thoughts about him back then? well not really, no. but of course it s traditional among political pundits to say, well there s nothing really surprising about anything that s ever