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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170321:05:18:00

we will be joined by democratic congressman jackie spear who was at that hearing today. she is on her way to join us. we re joined now by john heilman and david corn, they were both in attendance at the hearing. john heilman is co-author of game change and executive producer co-host of the circus on show time. david corn is with mother jones and an msnbc political analyst. john heilman, what did you score as the most important moment in the hearing? well, i think, you know, you just played it, lawrence, it was we got the big shock was the way the hearing started. i think for every member of the committee, they were all expecting jim comey to come in and say, to say that donald trump had lied about or had spoken falsely about president obama s wiretapping, but on the question of ongoing investigations of collusion between the trump campaign and russia, they expected him to say we don t talk about ongoing investigations and so when we came out and said what he said there is a ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170321:02:09:00

Allowed this hearing to take place. paul ryan could have stopped it and he didn t. the republican chairman of the committee, devin nunes, agreed to have the hearing. he did not have to do that. he knew that the democrats were going to use the hearing exactly the way they did. he knew they were going to use the fbi director an td the director of the nsa to prove donald trump lied about president obama and he let that happen. republican chairman of the committee never once defended donald trump s tweet. he made no attempts to do that. he did what a lawyer representing a guilty client does. he changed the subject. and the rest of the republicans changed the subject with him. to the outrage of the leaks about michael flynn. consider where those republican members of the house were sitting today. in the 60th day of the trump presidency. many of them in districts that ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170321:02:23:00

In the context of comey not discussing and confirming the existence of the investigation. so suddenly their tactic which was very disciplined but their tactic made them look completely unhinged and foolish in the context of the news that had just broken at the top of the hearing. there were other procedure things in the hearing that the chairman agreed to that is quite striking. he, himself, made a very short opening statement. he then allowed the senior democrat to make a 15-minute opening statement that was bigger than any other opening statement there and he knew that if he does this, this is going to be adam schiff s absolutely best case laid out which it was. and if he only gave him a five-minute opening, he wouldn t is been able to do that and so what i was struck by was all of the procedural cooperation that the democrats were getting from the chairman on this. well, one reason i think this is happening, it s happening on the senate side as well, is there s a very strong mov ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170321:05:22:00

Here and attack donald trump. i mean, maybe if they get a few more of these polls showing his disapproval rates in their own districts, they might be able to do that, but they basically let this hearing go on. they had their separate hearing where they could make noises that sounded like outrage and objection and john heilmann, like they re objecting to something but they weren t objecting to anything that the democrats were actually saying. right. just remember, lawrence, i think it s as important in this context we ve just been discussing that it was as much of a shock to the republicans that comey confirmed the existence of the ongoing investigation as it was to the democrats. so, yes, it s clear that they had decided en masse before hand that all they were going to do is talk about leaks and weren t going to address the real substantive issues that the committee is meant to be investigating, but i think because they assume that they would be able to do that. in the context of c ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170321:02:29:00

Tell congress russia did not influence the electoral process. that tweet, of course, was immediately read in the hearing and director comey said, we did not find that, we don t have an opinion about whether they affected the electoral process. you know, it s just another example of how the president will take fact and turn it into fiction. and the real fake news in all of this is coming, unfortunately, from our president. and the there were two big questions. one is, did all of that russian interference affect the final outcome? that is that is a question that we may never have a direct answer to. but the larger question of how long has russia been doing this, what are their incentives, and the clear incentive that you helped bring out was they had a candidate who they wanted to win. and that candidate won. that s right. and in fact, there was at ....

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