so they re not paying bank fees and a lot in health, new vaccines. so we re by far the biggest funder on malaria, coming up with new bed nets, new drugs. ..a vaccine, a way of killing mosquitoes. yeah, but if you think about this in terms of ethics, are you driven in your philanthropy mostly by excitement, by the potential outcome, or does it come from some deep psychological motive, you know, guilt, a feeling that you should live a life that s purposeful, a feeling that, you know, you genuinelyjust don t know what to do with this cash? i not only want to put the money in, but i want to put my time in and assemble people so we can learn, you know, what health systems work, which ones don t. i, you know, find the work very fulfilling. i get to learn new things. get to go to interesting places. yeah. there s no sacrifice involved. it s. well, it s quite a lot of financial sacrifice! sure, but i don t have any use for that money. i mean, i m not denying myself, you know, the wor
Making money off of vaccines? , which, of course, i m not. i spend billions on vaccines. you know, do vaccines kill children? no, vaccines have saved tens of millions of children. you know, elon s got more money than i have, but, you know, on the pandemic, he wasn t there funding vaccine factories, nor was he there predicting that it would happen. and so, you know, some people say, hey, he felt bad, his prediction didn t come true. so he, you know, had to start the pandemic. otherwise, he would have lost credibility. and just on elon, would you encourage him tojoin your club of mega philanthropists you, warren buffett, jeff bezos, people who give away most of their wealth? yeah, i think someday he ll be a great philanthropist. obviously, you know, things like tesla are having positive impact, even without being a form of philanthropy. but at the end of the day, i don t think he ll other than going to mars a few times, which might cost a little bit i don t think he ll want to